Navigation & Audio XM Direct install for $150
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Did you try hooking it up in your 2002? I also have the 02 and am kind of dissapointed that I can't use this setup without finding a newer HU. I love the stock unit but if I have to fork over another couple bills to get a newer HU, I might as well as go with a better sounding and one with preamp outputs. Anybody know what kind of price the 03 and up HUs are going for? I suppose if the price was right I would buy one. I checked e-Bay and didn't find anything.
Thanks,
MINIACK
Thanks,
MINIACK
#103
Originally Posted by MINIACK
Did you try hooking it up in your 2002? I also have the 02 and am kind of dissapointed that I can't use this setup without finding a newer HU. I love the stock unit but if I have to fork over another couple bills to get a newer HU, I might as well as go with a better sounding and one with preamp outputs. Anybody know what kind of price the 03 and up HUs are going for? I suppose if the price was right I would buy one. I checked e-Bay and didn't find anything.
Thanks,
MINIACK
Thanks,
MINIACK
#104
guys correct if im wrong
guys check out this link , is this the one ?????? http://www.rspeed.net/mini/item.asp?...4&prod=M20-603
#107
I wish someone can sort this whole thing out.
I want XM radio (for the factory radio) and at first it appeared that it could be obtained for about $150.00.
I have checked with several outfitters and manufactures, and none can provide a alternative to what BlitzSafe has.
The local dealer here told me I could get the complete setup kit, tuner and interface (that will interface with the factory radio) for about $250.00, I thought, at the time it was steep, well now I am beginning to think that will be about the price I will have to pay.
Anyone else have any ideas?
I want XM radio (for the factory radio) and at first it appeared that it could be obtained for about $150.00.
I have checked with several outfitters and manufactures, and none can provide a alternative to what BlitzSafe has.
The local dealer here told me I could get the complete setup kit, tuner and interface (that will interface with the factory radio) for about $250.00, I thought, at the time it was steep, well now I am beginning to think that will be about the price I will have to pay.
Anyone else have any ideas?
#108
Originally Posted by rajron
I wish someone can sort this whole thing out.
I want XM radio (for the factory radio) and at first it appeared that it could be obtained for about $150.00.
I have checked with several outfitters and manufactures, and none can provide a alternative to what BlitzSafe has.
The local dealer here told me I could get the complete setup kit, tuner and interface (that will interface with the factory radio) for about $250.00, I thought, at the time it was steep, well now I am beginning to think that will be about the price I will have to pay.
Anyone else have any ideas?
I want XM radio (for the factory radio) and at first it appeared that it could be obtained for about $150.00.
I have checked with several outfitters and manufactures, and none can provide a alternative to what BlitzSafe has.
The local dealer here told me I could get the complete setup kit, tuner and interface (that will interface with the factory radio) for about $250.00, I thought, at the time it was steep, well now I am beginning to think that will be about the price I will have to pay.
Anyone else have any ideas?
- The only two Blitzsafe products that will work with the XMDirect Tuner and the stock (HK included) radio is the BMWXMD100 or BMWXMD101. The difference being the 101 model has the pass through for a CD changer.
- The base model Blitzsafe adapter such as the v.1 and v.1D referenced in other parts of this thread will only provide RCA jacks for an AUX device. They do not provide any controls to the AUX device and as such are just an alternative to using the AUX cable.
- The BMWXMD100/1 adapter is one of the more complex adapters made by Blitzsafe, hence part of the premium in pricing.
- The license Blitzsafe has from XM is to sell OEM adapters through the dealer network unlike aftermarket adapters which sell through retail channels. Most common pricing seems to be in the $279-299 range for the "kit". Some will give you credit for the Tuner ($50) but you still have to buy the "kit" from an authorized dealer rather than reseller. That alone seems to account for the $100 premium it seems to be costing above other similar adapters.
This raises a couple of interesting questions:
1. Isn't this illegal? I thought manufacturers were not allowed to dictate retail pricing? I understand they can restrict advertised pricing to protect MSRP and such, but I though a seller was supposed to be able to determine pricing. If any reseller is able to purchase the product but getting pressure to set a higher price to protect dealer margins, I'd be interested in hearing from you. So would the Attorney General's office in your state.
2. Is this proprietary or just complex? The XMDirect serial protocol seems to be fairly simple.See Link The open source community has several projects to use XM on your PC. See Link. Why can't we roll our own adapter?
What do you need to build an adapter?
1. Signal source. XMDirect Tuner available from many sources such as Cruchfield for $49.
2. Pinouts. From the link above, we know the pinouts from the XMDirect Tuner. Does anyone have the pinouts from the CD changer out cable on the radio? What protocol is it using?
3. Signal translation. Once #2 is figured out, it's a matter of designing a circuit board to do the nug work (or have I over simplified the problem?)
Thoughts? :smile:
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#111
Originally Posted by DOKLB
I cant believe blitzsafe got to enfig......i have an email from them, actually from christine, that says they want 150 for JUST the adaptor.. well i guess the few of us that got to buy the adaptor just got lucky, the group buy now seems to be the best and only way left.. good luck....
Has B.S contacted NAM w/ group buy info?
#112
It appears tha Blitzsafe has a small forum for posting questions. I've started a thread there to try and get them to pay attention to us MINI owners regarding this topic.
So far no response. Maybe we should get more people to speak up?
http://blitzsafe.com/blitz_forum/dis...PagePosition=1
So far no response. Maybe we should get more people to speak up?
http://blitzsafe.com/blitz_forum/dis...PagePosition=1
#113
I also called Blitzsafe and was informed that they are working on a group buy for the Interface through this forum. Has anyone seen any info on this??? I also checked out RSSpeed and they do not list the adapter that is referenced in these threads. (I have an e-mail to them pending) I cannot believe that Sat Radio is this much of a pain in the @$$. Any ideas out there on what the guy at Blitzsafe told me abou a group buy through NAM.com or why RSspeed doesn't list this interface???
#114
My fight is over.
I got all excited about getting XM radio for $150.00 then deflated when finding out I missed the boat by not purchasing the modules earlier. Told my friends at work about the situation and they just laughed and said bite the bullet and get the kit if you really want XM. Then, after comparing prices of the interface module from BlitzSafe to other applications (cars) I realized their price was not that far off from what they were charging for the Mini when compared to those other applications. So, today I purchased a XM kit utilizing the XMDirect tuner and BlitzSafe interface from a local dealer for about $250.00.
Call me weak and conforming but I will have XM by weeks end.
Call me weak and conforming but I will have XM by weeks end.
#118
Originally Posted by MINImaniacS
guys check out this link , is this the one ?????? http://www.rspeed.net/mini/item.asp?...4&prod=M20-603
#119
Originally Posted by rajron
So, today I purchased a XM kit utilizing the XMDirect tuner and BlitzSafe interface from a local dealer for about $250.00.
Call me weak and conforming but I will have XM by weeks end.
Call me weak and conforming but I will have XM by weeks end.
Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.
XM is completely awesome, but I just hate seeing MINI folk being ripped off.
Please tell me you're doing your own install...........
Chris.
#120
thanx
Cooperb;
Yes I am doing my own install – I just ordered the parts.
Everyone needs to make a buck, I wish I could make more myself.
For $250.00 is still seems like a good deal, considering quality of reception and choices of stations.
Indecently thank you for the education on XM radio, interfaces, and install procedures.
rajron
Yes I am doing my own install – I just ordered the parts.
Everyone needs to make a buck, I wish I could make more myself.
For $250.00 is still seems like a good deal, considering quality of reception and choices of stations.
Indecently thank you for the education on XM radio, interfaces, and install procedures.
rajron
#121
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#124
Originally Posted by Cooperb!
I'll Email the CEO of Blitzsafe tonight, and ask what he's going to do for MINI owners on this board.
They need to live up to their promise, and it should be a good deal for everyone.
I'll post his response here, if I get one.
Chris.
They need to live up to their promise, and it should be a good deal for everyone.
I'll post his response here, if I get one.
Chris.
#125
Final Clarification
Up until now I have been very unclear with the whole satellite connections.
I have a 2004 MCS with Navigation and HK systems. I was interested in Sirius at the time of purchase but due to the navigation system it was and still is not available. So I went the aftermarket route. I went to Tweeter which installed an audiovox sirius tuner and used the Blitzsafe AUX adapter. I had an external controller which displayed the song,artist and channel. But due to the limited space on the dashboard it looked crappy. last week I ended up ordering a kenwood siruis tuner and the soundgate adapter. Installed it last night and was very disappointed. The only information that is displayed on the head unit is the Channel, YOU CAN NOT SAVE THE CHANNELS ON THE HEAD UNIT. let me say with over 150 stations it is alot of fun locating the channel you want. I will be returning the sirius units tomorrow. If you want satellite radio at this time the only option we have as mini owners is XM. and Blitzsafe is the only adaptor that we can use that will use the steering wheel controls,display song artist and channel info and finally you can store your channel information.
I contacted Blitzsafe and spoke with Mark the head of tech. support department. At this time they are not selling the unit as a stand alone unit you must purchase the unit in a package deal (XMdirect+Antenna+Blitzsafe adaptor. The item number is BMW XMD 101 or 100 The difference is 101 will let you hook up a cd changer as well. The price is the same. so go with the 101, why restrict yourself. from www.myradiostore.com.
The entire package includeing standard ups shipping cost [size=2]286.98 on 10/28/04. Talk about a monopoly. Feel free to contact me via email if you want. It has been a long 2 weeks trying to figure this out. [/size]
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I have a 2004 MCS with Navigation and HK systems. I was interested in Sirius at the time of purchase but due to the navigation system it was and still is not available. So I went the aftermarket route. I went to Tweeter which installed an audiovox sirius tuner and used the Blitzsafe AUX adapter. I had an external controller which displayed the song,artist and channel. But due to the limited space on the dashboard it looked crappy. last week I ended up ordering a kenwood siruis tuner and the soundgate adapter. Installed it last night and was very disappointed. The only information that is displayed on the head unit is the Channel, YOU CAN NOT SAVE THE CHANNELS ON THE HEAD UNIT. let me say with over 150 stations it is alot of fun locating the channel you want. I will be returning the sirius units tomorrow. If you want satellite radio at this time the only option we have as mini owners is XM. and Blitzsafe is the only adaptor that we can use that will use the steering wheel controls,display song artist and channel info and finally you can store your channel information.
I contacted Blitzsafe and spoke with Mark the head of tech. support department. At this time they are not selling the unit as a stand alone unit you must purchase the unit in a package deal (XMdirect+Antenna+Blitzsafe adaptor. The item number is BMW XMD 101 or 100 The difference is 101 will let you hook up a cd changer as well. The price is the same. so go with the 101, why restrict yourself. from www.myradiostore.com.
The entire package includeing standard ups shipping cost [size=2]286.98 on 10/28/04. Talk about a monopoly. Feel free to contact me via email if you want. It has been a long 2 weeks trying to figure this out. [/size]
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