Navigation & Audio Dynamat install results? Was it worth it?
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Update - Was it worth it?
I'd have to say an astounding yes! My system sounds awesome, but that is probably more due to getting new rears installed than anything else. But today, I decided to not "rock it out" on the way to work - Just drive it hard and pay attention to road noise. It really does seem to be reduced - I hear the engine more than anything else. And this may be psychological, but the car feels more sturdy and sound.
I also added some boot stripes and a new "Cooper" badge to "boot", so the car is looking better as well!
I also added some boot stripes and a new "Cooper" badge to "boot", so the car is looking better as well!
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Thanks for the kind words - I really do think it made a huge difference.
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Great job, it is quite labor intensive, but it does make a difference. I still have my wheel wells to do myself. I am sure there is some road noise that can be quieted a little. However, I think a combination of products will work best for the wheel wells as you need to quiet airborne noise as well as sound deaden panels.
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~45 sq ft of the dampening mat includes the sides, as well as the doors, and below the boot, and under the rear seats. Also includes the rear hatch.
~10 sq ft of a diff mat dampening as well as heat for the exhaust tunnel, underneath
~6 sq ft for a fiberglass mat with a thicker Al backing also in the exhaust tunnel and over the first layer of mat
~10 sq ft of a diff mat dampening as well as heat for the exhaust tunnel, underneath
~6 sq ft for a fiberglass mat with a thicker Al backing also in the exhaust tunnel and over the first layer of mat
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~45 sq ft of the dampening mat includes the sides, as well as the doors, and below the boot, and under the rear seats. Also includes the rear hatch.
~10 sq ft of a diff mat dampening as well as heat for the exhaust tunnel, underneath
~6 sq ft for a fiberglass mat with a thicker Al backing also in the exhaust tunnel and over the first layer of mat
~10 sq ft of a diff mat dampening as well as heat for the exhaust tunnel, underneath
~6 sq ft for a fiberglass mat with a thicker Al backing also in the exhaust tunnel and over the first layer of mat
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Did you mean for an R53 (which is shown in your gallery)? For an R56, I've seen several posts that described the R56 door as being very difficult, like there isn't much to cover on the inner skin, and the entire window mechanism must be removed to access the outer skin.
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I would think so.
Professional audio shops have had problems with R56 doors, and had to have a MINI dealer fix it.
Professional audio shops have had problems with R56 doors, and had to have a MINI dealer fix it.
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Yes I was referring to an R53, and sorry for not being more specific on that point. A quick glance of the Bentley was all that was needed to take door panel/card off. I expected the 2nd Gen to be very similar as it is in other ways.
Still, I would consult the Bentley and I am sure it has enough info to get the job done without damage.
Every little bit of the mat seems to help. On my 1st Gen I put down around 10sq ft in each door including the outer and inner skin. It sounds like for a 2nd Gen the mat used could be much less. Do what you can though, you will hear the difference.
Still, I would consult the Bentley and I am sure it has enough info to get the job done without damage.
Every little bit of the mat seems to help. On my 1st Gen I put down around 10sq ft in each door including the outer and inner skin. It sounds like for a 2nd Gen the mat used could be much less. Do what you can though, you will hear the difference.
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Yeah, I think the ppl in this post have it right. Install it where you can and it will all help. I'm looking for a jack and some stands so that I can do the wheel wells this weekend. I'll also be taking out the seats one more time to install the dsp, so i think I'll cover the entire floor board as well. If there's time I'll do what I can on the doors, but that's a BIG maybe... I already broke the lock mechanism once and got the dealership to replace it (thankfully for free).
I also need to locktite the screws holding the speakers to avoid rattles and work on a lexan window for the dsp. I've got a busy week ^^
I also need to locktite the screws holding the speakers to avoid rattles and work on a lexan window for the dsp. I've got a busy week ^^
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And also, stick to regular dynamat-like material. It works VERY well :D
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For a first gen car, the doors are somewhat easier to do from what is described above. On that car doing the doors with mat and closed cell foam behind the speakers had noticeable improvement in the sound quality.
Also as previously described, the doors are much more difficult to do on a second gen car, so the gain to pain ratio is just not as attractive.
As far as those speaker baffles go, I have had several shops advise that they are only for moisture protection and have no real value in terms of sound quailty improvement. Several reputable online sources verify that info. I have also found sources selling the baffles to claim any and everything.
Also as previously described, the doors are much more difficult to do on a second gen car, so the gain to pain ratio is just not as attractive.
As far as those speaker baffles go, I have had several shops advise that they are only for moisture protection and have no real value in terms of sound quailty improvement. Several reputable online sources verify that info. I have also found sources selling the baffles to claim any and everything.
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While I was under the car two days ago, installing my rear brake lights in the blanks where the rear fogs would go... I started to look at how the wheel wells were constructed. After getting over how utterly poor the construction looked, I realized that there must be zero noise dampening there, and decided that was the next on the to do list.
I have a quick question for those who have worked down in the wheel wells;
Is it more benefitial to dynomat the felt covered plastic wheel wells on the backside, or should I look to dynomat the other side, on the car itself?
Thanks, in advance.
I have a quick question for those who have worked down in the wheel wells;
Is it more benefitial to dynomat the felt covered plastic wheel wells on the backside, or should I look to dynomat the other side, on the car itself?
Thanks, in advance.
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Butyl rubber vibration damper mat, like Dynamat works well to sound deaden via adding mass to thin panels that vibrate and thus resonate a noise. So, perform the 'rap' test on any panel you think may be vibrating/resonating to determine if, in fact a panel needs some mat. If you do that on the felt wheel well liners you will find that it is quiet so mat will have little to no value. Now do likewise on the sheet metal wheel well, some areas will sound thin, hollow, or tinny. Mat will be of much greater value in those areas.
Dynamat is expensive so don’t waste it in areas where there is no benefit.
Dynamat is expensive so don’t waste it in areas where there is no benefit.
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