R56 LCI Bluetooth Audio + Controls
#1
R56 LCI Bluetooth Audio + Controls
I have:
An LCI R56 MCS
Non-Nav
"Boost" Non-Premium sound radio/CD/Aux
No USB
No CD Changer
At the moment my Bluetooth setup is:
Cig lighter flush-fit 2-port USB port
USB powered bluetooth aux unit, but lacks steering wheel controls, track information, etc.
This works, but it takes up the center console area and doesn't allow control/display track info.
I want to find a bluetooth solution that gives:
Bluetooth audio
Steering wheel/head unit controls
Ideally track information
I don't want:
A standalone e-waste remote clipped to the steering wheel.
I don't want some screened nav/AA/Carplay unit
This seems to be a joke for a Pre-LCI car:
One of these "Mr12Volt" A2DP units supposedly works, but LCI cars don't have a POF port?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255202997460
OEM Mini bluetooth retrofit exists, but the "End" date for fitment is 2010.
On the other hand, I can't find anything out there for LCI cars.
I think there are few ways to go about it:
I think the rear of the head unit looks like this (if there's a CD changer, there's an additional port to the right of the black connector on the left.
An LCI R56 MCS
Non-Nav
"Boost" Non-Premium sound radio/CD/Aux
No USB
No CD Changer
At the moment my Bluetooth setup is:
Cig lighter flush-fit 2-port USB port
USB powered bluetooth aux unit, but lacks steering wheel controls, track information, etc.
This works, but it takes up the center console area and doesn't allow control/display track info.
I want to find a bluetooth solution that gives:
Bluetooth audio
Steering wheel/head unit controls
Ideally track information
I don't want:
A standalone e-waste remote clipped to the steering wheel.
I don't want some screened nav/AA/Carplay unit
This seems to be a joke for a Pre-LCI car:
One of these "Mr12Volt" A2DP units supposedly works, but LCI cars don't have a POF port?: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255202997460
OEM Mini bluetooth retrofit exists, but the "End" date for fitment is 2010.
On the other hand, I can't find anything out there for LCI cars.
I think there are few ways to go about it:
- Find a way to input to the head unit (in such a way that satisfies the audio/controls/info wants) in current form by finding some adapter, maybe hijack the CD function somehow - Unsuccessful so far...
- Buy the same head unit, but setup for a CD changer and use something like this: https://gromaudio.com/store/most_ada...optofiber.html
- Retrofit USB and try a USB dongle (may not exist/work with audio over USB)
- Retrofit USB, Oldschool USB+AUX to Ipod adapter, and a bluetooth adapter (should work for audio, not sure if USB is only for power or if it also does controls/track info. I haven't found anything about retrofitting USB either.)
I think the rear of the head unit looks like this (if there's a CD changer, there's an additional port to the right of the black connector on the left.
Last edited by Northern; 01-26-2023 at 03:35 PM.
#2
This device is the only plug-n-play solution that I know of:
https://www.viseeointernational.com/tune2air
Hoqever, to use this device, your car needs to have been equipped with the USB and aux jacks for iPod use.
https://www.viseeointernational.com/tune2air
Hoqever, to use this device, your car needs to have been equipped with the USB and aux jacks for iPod use.
#3
This device is the only plug-n-play solution that I know of:
https://www.viseeointernational.com/tune2air
Hoqever, to use this device, your car needs to have been equipped with the USB and aux jacks for iPod use.
https://www.viseeointernational.com/tune2air
Hoqever, to use this device, your car needs to have been equipped with the USB and aux jacks for iPod use.
I think the problem with doing that in my R56 is retrofitting USB to a car that came without - I'm not sure if the port even exists on the head unit.
After looking at a few of them yesterday, there seem to be a handful of port configurations, it looks like they add extra ports for CD changer? USB? White connector on bottom.
This variant lacks the "Bluetooth" label, but has a Sirius label
This one says both "Bluetooth" and "Sirius"
This one is "Bluetooth" only, also from a UK car, so may be other differences.
Most on ebay seem to be this last variant
I think at this point, I need to check if my head unit has that port. If port exists, try something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32295413460.html
Last edited by Northern; 01-27-2023 at 12:43 PM.
#4
So that aliexpress link got me thinking...
The green cable is definitely for USB, but the white 12-pin aux cable had me thinking. I dug some more and found these:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001621653267.html
So this seems pretty slick. Fully integrated Bluetooth 5.0 + mic (the mic in the current setup is terrible)
Based on some of the units showing only 5 wires in total and looking at pinouts for this connector, I'm 99% sure it can't skip/reverse tracks or display track info, but it would be a very clean setup for someone who doesn't need that.
Now I'm more confused because the steering wheel controls are clearly connected to the head unit, but I don't see how from the wiring diagrams unless it's CANBUS...
The green cable is definitely for USB, but the white 12-pin aux cable had me thinking. I dug some more and found these:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001621653267.html
So this seems pretty slick. Fully integrated Bluetooth 5.0 + mic (the mic in the current setup is terrible)
Based on some of the units showing only 5 wires in total and looking at pinouts for this connector, I'm 99% sure it can't skip/reverse tracks or display track info, but it would be a very clean setup for someone who doesn't need that.
Now I'm more confused because the steering wheel controls are clearly connected to the head unit, but I don't see how from the wiring diagrams unless it's CANBUS...
Last edited by Northern; 01-27-2023 at 01:34 PM.
#5
For all the effort you're putting into this, I'd just replace the whole unit with one that has Android Auto/CarPlay like this one. Unless you REALLY like the speedo it's going to give you all the functionality you're looking for.
Edit: Just saw you don't want a screen. Good luck!
Edit: Just saw you don't want a screen. Good luck!
#6
For all the effort you're putting into this, I'd just replace the whole unit with one that has Android Auto/CarPlay like this one. Unless you REALLY like the speedo it's going to give you all the functionality you're looking for.
Edit: Just saw you don't want a screen. Good luck!
Edit: Just saw you don't want a screen. Good luck!
That AA/CP unit is miles better than some others I've seen, some are downright hideous.
If it weren't for the price, I'd be happier to give it a shot. I have a wireless AA/CP double din in my Outback and it really is the way to go (especially since the car came from factory with a double din/fit kit/adapters installed already, and the swap was 1/3 the cost of the mini version)
Right now the closest alternative seems to be that USB retrofit setup from further down the page + the unit njaremka posted. That should get me track display/skip ability but lacks mic input and I'm pretty sure hands-free calling won't work.
Might end up pulling the trigger on one of those AA/CP units anyway, with the wireless option I guess.
OBD2 diag would be a good option but it looks like the unit is unchanged, they just throw in a $10 ELM327 WiFi unit for a huge markup.
Edit: just realized it's wireless CP + WIRED AA. That's a hard stop lol, may as well just buy an aux cable if I have to dig my phone out and plug it in. 80% chance it's just a USB dongle so I could simply buy a truly wireless one separately.
Last edited by Northern; 01-30-2023 at 07:53 AM.
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#7
Yeah that unit is stupid expensive - my hope is that one of these days they throw a big sale and I can get one for a bit less. For now I've got a Raspberry Pi running Android Auto with a program called Crankshaft that I connected to a 7" touchscreen that mounts in the CD player. Doesn't look stock but works well enough for $100. Unit does Wireless, but I found a way to Quick charge my Pixel 6 so my commute is the only charging my phone needs.
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