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Suspension Camber Plate Confusion - Which one?

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Camber Plate Confusion - Which one?

I need to determine which adjustable camber plate to buy to to sit above my H&R Coilovers and am perplexed on which to go with:

Ireland @ $275
Helix @ $449
H-Sport @ $518

A 45% swing from top to bottom and I really cannot tell where one is above the others ....Input / comments from current users would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks ...
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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I went the cheap route and got the irelands. Since they're not meant to be used in the winter, they'll probably rust (didn't know that prior to purchase), and they do add some noise to the cabin (hollow clunking). I've heard the hsports rust, too, and I've heard nothing but good things about the helix. If I had to do it again, I guess I'd get the helix.

That said, the car handles exactly as I wanted it to as a result of the plates and the alignment. It is a sheer joy on the track now. It was before as well, but now it's even more fun.

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Hey mbcoops, did you see a change in ride height after installing the Ireland plates? Their website seems to imply that there shouldn't be a change, but just wondering.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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I got my H-sports from JSC speed for $430 shipped. The prices for the H-sports seems to be all over the place. They don't raise ride height and they are really easy to adjust camber.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mbcoops
I ... got the irelands. Since they're not meant to be used in the winter...
Does that go for their fixed plates too. I was just about to get a pair of those but once they are in and Artoo aligned I don't want to have to touch them again. Is there any maintenace recommended for these?

Rich
 
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Satay - I could not notice a rise in the height at all, but I did notice that I can now jack up the car using a jack that I used to not be able to use when I have on my 205/50/15 track tires. So if it did raise the car, it's like 3mm, just enough to get the jack under there (the jack points).

Rich - no idea. Speak to "antiquecarnut" about it; he got in touch with IE when his rusted (adjustable I think) and they replied that enthusiasts usually don't drive their cars in the winter. The rust might not be a bad thing for the fixed plates as long as you like the settings it gets you...the rest on the adjustables probably takes away adjustability. Who knows; I'm a novice.

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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I would not get the ireland unless you are on a strict budget. I have had them about a year now. There are two issues. 1. the spherical bearing (instead of ball bearing) wears and then rattles and transmitts road noise. 2. There is not enough clearance between the top of the strut rod and top cap of the unit. When you hit pot holes or railroad tracks the strut rod will contact the cap. The noise is awful. It sounds like someone hit the strut mount with a sledge hammer.

They do work and are cheap. I wouldn't mind replacing the bearings, but the rod contact is a deal breaker. I may try to dremel some clearance, but I don't think there will be enough.

The helix looks to be te best street choice and is what I will try next.

Edit: These are the race/street plates.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Thanks ...I would rather go in the right direction out of the gate and based on the overall picture, Helix sounds like my best option ..
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich.Wolfson
Does that go for their fixed plates too. I was just about to get a pair of those but once they are in and Artoo aligned I don't want to have to touch them again. Is there any maintenace recommended for these?

Rich
Going OT. lol

Just bought 'em myself. Fixed that is. They are similar to the OEM bushing/bearing setup. In fact, the word is the bushing is a BMW part for a heavier car. As we don't do any maintenance on the factory unit, I would hazard a guess as to the maintenance is the same as the factory units we all get with the Mini.

Search on fixed camber plate and enjoy!
 
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