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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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She won't talk to me: Amer. '06 MCS, Germ. Nav. DVD

I've got an '06 MCS, American spec'd, and am using the Europe '07 NAV DVD (Road Map Europe High 2007). The radio will drop in volume when I know that the car should be speaking to me, but no, it doesn't.

I did add the AUX jack and the OEM iPod adapter.

Yes, I checked to see that the volume is turned up for the NAV voice. Dash console is set for only US, GB and (I think) Spanish as the voice options -- coud this be the problem, given that it's the Europe DVD?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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Nope, I have the same thing here in Germany. Sounds like they forgot to hook up the connector as I stated. Where are you located? If in Graf area, let me know.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by abuzavi
I did add the AUX jack and the OEM iPod adapter.
Perhaps you disconnected something when you added these?

I do remember reading something about having to move the Nav pinouts to a different connector when adding something to the HU... but I forget for which install they were talking about.

Sorry my info is vague!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Edge
Perhaps you disconnected something when you added these?

I do remember reading something about having to move the Nav pinouts to a different connector when adding something to the HU... but I forget for which install they were talking about.

Sorry my info is vague!
The 12-pin sub audio port at the back of the radio houses these connectors. If anything was installed and these pins (2 of them) were removed - you will lose your NAV voice commands.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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So, she's no just bashful. Crap -- back into the dash I go.

I feel like such a goon.....
 
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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LOL, us goon's live and learn....

(FYI folks I did the same thing when I installed my Icelink Plus) DOH!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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And he told me to blame the goon that did the install. Seems about right -- the installation job was worth what I paid for it.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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Well, did you chew him out? :p

Better yet, did you fix it? The clip in question is a black one with yellow wires. Just had mine apart today to install a bluetooth kit.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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I did. Chewed him out something fierce.

I had the car out of the garage, ripped apart, fixed, and back in the garage in -- I kid you not -- seven minutes. Would have taken less if I hadn't been taking notes and photos.

To get in and fix this, I grabbed my Snap-On screwdriver and my 10 Euro set of Torx bits. On the driver's side, it's a size 40 Torx screw.





On the passenger side, they are size 25.





After that, it's 4 Philips head screws. I use a larger headed bit for these.



After that, grab and gently pull. Expect to get some resistance to it coming all the way out, right away.





When that happens, try sneaking some finger up under it from below the radio. That should untangle the wiring harness from anything it might have snagged on.




Once it's out, you can get to the back and the wiring harness. To get the NAV voice to work, I needed to move two wires from one 12-pin sub audio port to the other. Getting the wires out isn't just an issue of grabbing and pulling. Push down on the little tab on the 12-pin sub audio port (the red arrow points to it), and the smaller wire clip inside will slide out of the side.





Once out, this smaller clip looks like this:




Now you can get the wires out. You'll need something small and pointy to stick in to the wires, to push down on the retention clip. I used a Torx5 bit (and it works like a charm).




Poof, the wire comes out. Repeat for the one on the other side. Then repeat for taking out the inner clip to which the wires need to be moved. Then put it back together.

When done, looks like this. These are the two wires that were missing that I added. This is what right looks like, for OEM iPod adapter, AUX port, and navigation.



And did I mention that she speaks British? I can't say that she speaks English, though I am sure I'll be chided for that. She speaks British. Can't get her to speak German, though. American, British, and I think Spanish (or Italian -- they often sound the same to me).

Smashing. Just brilliant. It's the dog's bollocks
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Outstanding!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 03:24 AM
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That's the mutts nuts!

Thanks for the walk thru, Brother!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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Yeah, no problem. It was driving me nuts -- here's to hoping that others don't have the problem!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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LOL...

There is a program here that will allow you to recode the NAV system for different languages and such but you need to interface the IBUS. So, I ordered a module that will allow me to do this via my laptop. Once I play with it, I will let you guys know how it goes. This should let me change regions and voices...
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by abuzavi
Yeah, no problem. It was driving me nuts -- here's to hoping that others don't have the problem!
This is exactly what makes NAM so wonderful. abuzavi - the extra time you took figuring this out and documenting it will undoubtedly help many other MINI owners down the road. Bravo!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Great pics - this will definitely help others on the forum!
 
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Call it my hope -- no one should be afraid to go into the radio to make changes like adding an iPod adapter or aux port. 10,000 times easier than other cars I have had.
 
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