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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Eaton TVS R900--who will be first to market?

http://www.eatonperformance.com/superchargers/TVS.html
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Looks good

Depending on service life of my M45 I'd consider it a candidate. Obvious questions are how well everything lines up with current outlet etc. I'm assuming some custom fabrication will be needed.

Quite interesting. Appears to take some of the best of both designs. Greater displacement, and slightly conical (?) screw... more gradual compression (compared to m45) = less heat at the manifold.

I'll add my voice to the forming chorus. Who's 1st?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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My prediction is that it will render the M series obsolete.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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My prediction is that it will render the M series obsolete.
Don,

Hmm...

Not trying to put you on the spot (ok, maybe I am ).

Would you say the 900 model could/should outperform the M62?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Would you say the 900 model could/should outperform the M62?
Yes, and my source is the source: Eaton.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Don,

Hmm...

Not trying to put you on the spot (ok, maybe I am ).

Would you say the 900 model could/should outperform the M62?
YES! And looks as though it'd provide smooth progressive boost with gradual taper mid-up top. ...Might not come on like the current M45/62, but torque should ramp up fast after the first 1K rpm.

A 19000 rpm limit + 7500 rpm engine redline + an s/c pulley (= roughly 2.5 rev's/crank rev)... would equate to 240 m^3/hr or roughly 141 cfm (potential) inlet volume flow @ 2000 engine rpm.

Improved fuel efficiency, more torque/hp

Nice!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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YES! And looks as though it'd provide smooth progressive boost with gradual taper mid-up top. ...Might not come on like the current M45/62, but torque should ramp up fast after the first 1K rpm.

A 19000 rpm limit + 7500 rpm engine redline + an s/c pulley (= roughly 2.5 rev's/crank rev)... would equate to 240 m^3/hr or roughly 141 cfm (potential) inlet volume flow @ 2000 engine rpm.

Improved fuel efficiency, more torque/hp

Nice!
With the added advantage of a cooler charge as well.

Me likey
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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wow..
someone start working on those too please!
DDM? Helix?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Me likey
Me too.

For some reason I couldn't pull the trigger on the 62.

But this appears to a whole 'nother ball game.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Very interesting
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Since I am 49900 on my waurentee........ Pretty interested myself.....

What do you think Jim?, we could scare up a couple more local adreniline junkies and go for a group buy already!! LOL I'll be keeping an eye on this.

Tim
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TLMCS05
Since I am 49900 on my waurentee........ Pretty interested myself.....

What do you think Jim?, we could scare up a couple more local adreniline junkies and go for a group buy already!! LOL I'll be keeping an eye on this.

Tim
Got a $$$ figure in mind?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TLMCS05
Since I am 49900 on my waurentee........ Pretty interested myself.....

What do you think Jim?, we could scare up a couple more local adreniline junkies and go for a group buy already!! LOL I'll be keeping an eye on this.

Tim
My '03 was modfied at 12,500 and ran like a top until I sold it at 84,000 miles.

I modified this one - the '06 - heavily at umm, 1,250 miles.

Now I'm at 11,000, so I'm ready for a serious round two to honor the coming out of ver. 1.0 at a similar mileage.

It'd be nice if DDM offered it, since they're close and they've been so attentive to Bob and Dane.

I'd like to support them if they agree that its good and they decide to offer it.

But it's probably gonna take a lot of development work, since DDM was already very familiar with the M62 they developed for the Miatas.

And even with their experience, the M62 project development still appears to be a work in progress.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Will our cars have enough power to run that thing? I know the older Eaton M90 is a smidge too large to squeeze into our engine bay and puts too much strain on our engine to run properly.
 
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Mark me down as another ATL boy with interest. Must be something in the water down here
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Will our cars have enough power to run that thing? I know the older Eaton M90 is a smidge too large to squeeze into our engine bay and puts too much strain on our engine to run properly.
Multiple sizes, for multiple applications, however the cooling thing in their video of it, cantreally tell how well the whole thing would fit.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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Maybe its a dumb question.. or maybe im reading the chart wrong but wouldnt the R660 be a better choice. Since it does put out more and its smaller?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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I like what I see. I wish I had 1 to study.... & a FMIC....
My wife would beat me with a stick...
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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I like what I see. I wish I had 1 to study.... & a FMIC....
My wife would beat me with a stick...

Steve,

Pain only lasts a short time, the thrill of driving it will be much longer!

Bill
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugami
Maybe its a dumb question.. or maybe im reading the chart wrong but wouldnt the R660 be a better choice. Since it does put out more and its smaller?
Yea, that's what I was getting at Tony.
The R530 specs right but is bigger better in this instance?
Time to go check my lottery ticket
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
I like what I see. I wish I had 1 to study.... & a FMIC....
My wife would beat me with a stick...
Jusst adding to the guess work......

If this unit is as thermally efficient as it appears to be there may be little need for a whopping IC.
Then again since this unit is a compressor and not just a blower pressure drop isn't the same issue either.
I'm so confused.

Nw for the conspiracy question.
Why would Don post this question?
Is he hinting at something hmmmmmm?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Jusst adding to the guess work......

If this unit is as thermally efficient as it appears to be there may be little need for a whopping IC.
Then again since this unit is a compressor and not just a blower pressure drop isn't the same issue either.
I'm so confused.

Nw for the conspiracy question.
Why would Don post this question?
Is he hinting at something hmmmmmm?
No mater what there will be heat. Whopping? Leads to how long is string?
Compressor? Might be - there is no need for an IC just a great CAI,maybe not....
Confused? Yup. That's why I want 1 to study....dust off the Bridgeport....
Just might need to go to NJ sooner than I thought.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by miniflop
Steve,

Pain only lasts a short time, the thrill of driving it will be much longer!

Bill
Oh yea, I can take it.... I did swear I would not touch this car....But like everything else "Why can't you leave anything alone?". No mod plans for the refridg or the stove... yet
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
No mater what there will be heat. Whopping? Leads to how long is string?
Compressor? Might be - there is no need for an IC just a great CAI,maybe not....
Confused? Yup. That's why I want 1 to study....dust off the Bridgeport....
Just might need to go to NJ sooner than I thought.
Yep, how much?
Whopping= size of aftermarket units now in use..
The current OEM IC actually does a pretty good job. Given lower inlet temps it would still be quite effective.
Being a cheapass I'm thinking of ways to keep conversion kit costs down
This could be all moot if there's no way to use the current SC inlet. You'd either have to make an adaptor to match current plumbing or design new plumbing.

My fear is this'll run about the same cost that trying to use a twin screw does. We don't know the cost of these units. If they run what a Lysholm does then.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Yep, how much?
Whopping= size of aftermarket units now in use..
The current OEM IC actually does a pretty good job. Given lower inlet temps it would still be quite effective.
Being a cheapass I'm thinking of ways to keep conversion kit costs down
This could be all moot if there's no way to use the current SC inlet. You'd either have to make an adaptor to match current plumbing or design new plumbing.

My fear is this'll run about the same cost that trying to use a twin screw does. We don't know the cost of these units. If they run what a Lysholm does then.
The OE IC could be easily moded, as you say it would work well - better as FMIC ( I think ). Plumbing, shouldn't be too much of a problem, in colors, beter yet paisley & polished aluminum.
Cost. These could be quite expensive per single unit.
 
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