Greetings, all! I pose a question that has been confusing me...well, since I've started looking into aftermarket parts for my MINI. My MINI saleswoman strongtly recommended that I go with the 2005 over the 2004 MINI when I ordered in June of '04. I got the car in late August, and when all of the later 2005's came out, I started to notice little differences between those and mine. Just tiny things, like the windshield washer fluid indicator on the right stalk, and that the Bluetooth microphone had been moved. Things that would have been nice to have.

However, now that I'm ordering different kinds of aftermarket parts, like my MINI armrest, I notice that 2005 is usually a completely different set of parts, and I don't know which part to get; the 2004 or 2005 set. My 2005 armrest fit, but I had to cut the entire back off of my center console piece to get it to. I don't know if this is normal fitting for the armrest or not, but it certainly made me question whether I bought the correct part or not.

Is anyone else in the same situation, or know what I should be ordering? Many thanks!

 

I think you just answered your question. If you had to do major surgery to get an accessory for an '05 to fit your car, chances are very good that your car is an '04 genre. Next time you order an accessory, try ordering for an '04 and see if you have to do major surgery to get the '04 accessory to fit your car.

 

Is your reverse light (back up light) in the rear in the center above tail pipe or are they built into the tail light assemblies?

If it's in the center, then it's a 2004. If they are in the tail lights, then it's a 2005.

 

Well this may be too simplistic... but do you have your original paperwork? That should state what you have. Plus the VIN number will be able to tell you the year. Maybe I'm an odd duck (been told that before) but I keep ALL the paperwork on cars I buy, including the window sticker.... pretty cool to look back and see what I paid for cars "way back when"

 

then you know for sure... Function 1.4 is what you want. This is a pretty little hack.

Matt

BEGIN MINI2 STUFF!!!!

From Mini2.......
link... http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f..._obc_functions

Seeing as I mentioned this in another thread elsewhere on MINI2, here's a quick how-to on getting a bit more information from your MINI's computer.

The information displays in place of your mileometer, so you DO NOT have to have the MINI OBC/Trip Computer option to see this.

A complete list of functions is below, this example is how to get into the menu number '7'.

1. With the key in the ignition, but in the off position, press and hold down the odometer reset button, while holding the button down, switch the key in the ignition to position 1.
2. The screen will say 'Test' and a number.
3. Scroll through, (pressing reset button) through to test 19 and wait a moment.
4. Wait and the message will say "log i-off" then "log i-on" and back to "log i-off" again. When "log i-off" appears, press again. You are now in the system. (Woooo)
5. You can (if you wish) start the ignition any time from now.
6. Scroll through to test 7.0 (or whichever from the list below) and wait a moment, after a pause you will enter the test 7.* range of information.
7. You can scroll through now (7.1,7.2,7.3 etc.) using the reset button.
8. You can exit each menu by pressing, holding for a few seconds, then releasing the reset button.
9. To leave the system scroll to 19 and leave it for a few moments.
   Switching off the ignition also exits the system.

Test:

1.0 Chassis number
1.1 Kilometer count
1.2 Parts number
1.3 Coding-, Diagnostic- and Bus-index
1.4 Production Date (Calender week/year)
1.5 Hard- and Software status
1.6 Injectorstatus, Cylinder count, Engine factor.

2.0 Combisystem Test

3.0 Service intervall counter

4.0 Actual fuel consumption in l/100km. eg.0154 = 15,4 liters/100kms.
4.1 Consumption in liters/100kms.

5.0 Distance consumption in l/100kms.
5.1 Actual rest distance with available fuel in Kms.

6.0 Actual amount of fuel in tank. eg. 123321 =12,3liters left 32,1 liters right
6.1 Total amount of fuel in tank.
6.2 Show value of Fuel guage. 1= both senders OK, 2= sender failure, 3=ti signal unplausible (no reading)

7.0 Actual coolant temp.
7.1 Actual outside temp.
7.2 Actual engine revs.
7.3 Actual speed

8.0 Hexadecimal readings of menu 7.0 to 7.3

9.0 Actual on board voltage (Battery)

10.0 Land codes

11.0 Unit codes

12.0 No funktion

13.0 Gong test

14.0 - 14.4 On board diagnostic codes. eg 000000 = no failures

15.0 - 18.0 No funktion

19.0 On/Off for Test menu.

20.0 Correction factor for Fuel consumption
Formula for correction:
Shown consumption x 1000 / user defined consumption
Push the trip reset button to begin the correction. Numbers count up from 0-9, when correct number shows push trip reset button.

20.1 Sets 10ths. for consumption factor
20.2 Sets 100ths. and 1000ths. for consumption factor
20.3 Saves the new consumption factor and shows new value

21.0 Software reset. (Same as disconnecting battery)

Notes:

I have not been able to get speed into MPH, if you can update me with how to do this (if it's possible), then feel free to do so.

Your MINI's computer may give more or less information than stated above.


minimarkcs for the complete list of functions, translated from German and typed by hand!

 

Whoa Whoa, no need to do all that ....WOW

Just go look in the door jam for the build date.

If its 6/04 or earlier, its an 04
If its 7/04 or later, its an 05

 

and you can get digital temp mon and the like.

Matt

 

What if the build date was 6/04? Is it an 04/05 (as in split personality)????

But seriously, which would it be? Is there a production week cut-off that determines the model year? Or, is there some algorithm that can be applied to the VIN to determine whether it is an '04 or '05? Or????

 

Sorry, mistyped. 7/04 on is 05.

You can take that to the bank. I know specifically because I have an 06/04 build.