[Hawaii] HRP Relocation Timeline, the push for Parcel 9 continues...a flash timeline.

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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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[Hawaii] HRP Relocation Timeline, the push for Parcel 9 continues...a flash timeline.

Hello everyone,

As many of you are aware, the push for a new racing facility at Parcel 9 isn't dead. It's simply been scaled back in size and scope to the original plan that provides for a much larger, and safer duplicate of the operations at Hawaii Raceway Park. There is no longer a push for a world class facility, simply a local track to support local needs.

The entire story is a long and complicated one, one that stretches back all the way to 1990...basically the event that started this entire process.
After pouring through the public documents in an effort to better understand the events unfolding before us, I've come up with this Flash timeline to show the process of the effort to relocate HRP to the Parcel 9 property at Kalaeloa. I've basically highlighted what I believe are the key moments that help to define how this process has occurred and why it has taken the direction it has.

There are specific points on the timeline that will provide a brief description of the event or document occuring on that date. You may view the description by hovering over it, and then clicking it to view the linked document. Each point has an official and public legal document that is the basis for the point in the timeline. I think you'll find it extremely interesting.
It's an extremely informative read, and I highly encourage everyone to take the time to read through each and EVERY point, and document thoroughly, as that's where the real meat of the timeline is.

HRP Relocation Timeline

I took the time to do this, because I feel that the more we understand about where we have come, we can know where we need to go. I believe these documents help support the effort to establish a new racing facility at Parcel 9, and show the huge amount of effort taken to achieve that goal. There are alot of naysayers, but if anything, this shows that there has been a huge amount of dedication to this project, and that this has been a long battle to bring a new racetrack for all of us.

I appreciate your comments, and hope that after a good and thorough read, your understanding of the situation will have improved. Feedback is highly welcome, but I hope that you will read ALL the documents before you provide it.

Thanks,
Michael Kitchens

P.S. I'd appreciate everyone forwading this around, as the more people get this information, the better. Thanks again.
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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By the way...maybe I should clear something up as well...
This facility will use NO tax money...it is all being done by private investors. The tax bills are dead, and they're not going to be revived, BUT the project is still moving forward:
the efforts to acquire Parcel 9 at Kalaeloa to create a racing facility dedicated to local needs and local racers are moving forward. Once acquired, the construction of all required racing surfaces and support amenities will be completed as soon as possible, creating a duplication of the existing operations at Hawaii Raceway Park with updated infrastructure, safety and communications systems consistent with industry standards and insurance underwriting requirements. This facility will rely on private investors to fund the project.
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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it's all good but....

Mike,

Thanks for the history on the attempt to acquire parcel 9 at Kalaeloa. I see that you posted this at all the usual auto-related forums in Hawaii. I think this is good, especially if there were any open-minded SORT folks that would be willing to listen to something other than the usual information that is fed to them; however, the NAM Hawaii folks are backing your efforts, as seen by our support in the past (OK maybe with the exception of one), so "we" want to hear (and/or see) the timeline going forward from where you left off (on your current "historical" timeline). Enough of the history and babble about who did what to who and whatever else is being slung on the other sites - we don't care about it and want to know something else. I read the post on bf.c regarding some committee but also read that this was posted immaturely and some official post was going to follow; however, it's been some time now but I have not seen any new information.

Right now, as it's posted, your thread is non-MINI related. Just being honest and giving my feedback.

Dirk
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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I didn't know it had to be mini related...sorry on that one, I thought this was just a discussion group for MINIs of Hawaii.

Roger that on the OMAC deal...this is actually a part of that process...it's just we still have to meet to work out a few more things before we can go public. We want to make sure everything is worked out perfectly (or at least the best it can be) before we do.

As far as what has happened in the timeline after the last post, I believe everyone pretty much knows what happened already. The tax bills were killed, and the plan moved back to it's original form. DHHL refuses to honor the land agreement/exchange, but like I've said before, apparently the documents Oakland has are valid enough for Oakland to push for negotiation/litigation, and he's pressing forward with that. That's reason enough for us to keep supporting it. It's either that or condemnation, and I honestly would like to stay outta that issue. I've already bitten off enough for myself as it is

I'm not part of Oakland's team, I just support the push for Parcel 9, and I asked for help in making the process as transparent as possible. The only thing we, joe public, could do, is to let DHHL know how we feel, that we support getting us a new racetrack on P9, and we support providing Native Hawaiians a better place and opportunity to live somewhere appropriate rather than next to an airport. If DHHL knows that a large majority support this push, then it will be less of a Michael Oakland-DHHL deal, and see that it's for the benefit of more than just him.

It makes perfect sense to me. If DHHL would simply agree to a land exchange, I think it would be a win-win situation for all of us. Native
Hawaiians would get actually useable property, and we would get a racetrack. I've basically just taken the position, that I need to try and inform everyone of what's been going on since the beginning, since it seems as if everyone is confused on how this all came to be. From what I've seen, there's been alotta hard work behind this, as I've said, and it appears alotta people have swept the entire P9 proposal under the rug. There were tons of people saying that Oakland is just in it for the money, and that this is all a cover up in order to leave us all high and dry. From the documentation I've seen, and just the small amount of information I put up in the timeline, I think I can reliably support my belief that it's completly absurd to assume that of Oakland.

I know there's a ton political wheeling and dealing (as with all things of this nature) behind this, so I'm not going to concentrate on that...I
released all of that info in a format that could help educate everyone about the process and how it has occurred.

My own personal intent is to garner support from the public to support P9, and to try and convince DHHL to honor the agreement to swap (without litigation). It seems as if this land deal, is the biggest thing holding us back now.

I hope that helps clear up some things...
 
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Old May 16, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ArchangelX
I didn't know it had to be mini related...sorry on that one, I thought this was just a discussion group for MINIs of Hawaii.
You're right Mike, it doesn't have to be Mini related - I was just being a grump.

Originally Posted by ArchangelX
I'm not part of Oakland's team, I just support the push for Parcel 9, and I asked for help in making the process as transparent as possible. The only thing we, joe public, could do, is to let DHHL know how we feel, that we support getting us a new racetrack on P9, and we support providing Native Hawaiians a better place and opportunity to live somewhere appropriate rather than next to an airport. If DHHL knows that a large majority support this push, then it will be less of a Michael Oakland-DHHL deal, and see that it's for the benefit of more than just him.
Now this is something I can give support to and would like to learn more about.

Originally Posted by ArchangelX
From what I've seen, there's been alotta hard work behind this, as I've said, and it appears alotta people have swept the entire P9 proposal under the rug. There were tons of people saying that Oakland is just in it for the money, and that this is all a cover up in order to leave us all high and dry.
BUT that wasn't us (NAMers). What I was trying to say in my earlier post was we weren't those people saying those things so we don't need to be pursuaded. Now the history plus what's going to happen now would be worth reading but the history by itself doesn't mean much to me at this point.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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Oh, I see what you're saying, sorry, I was being dumb earlier. I never meant to make it sound like I was questioning your support, sorry. The point of the timeline was just to give some background history, basically. Alotta people were confused, like I said...that was it's sole purpose, which would tie into the next phase which is to drum up support for the parcel 9 swap that's coming up next.

That's what I meant by "understand about where we have come, we can know where we need to go". After you read through all of this, I think could definetly bolster your own ideas of supporting the Parcel 9 swap. So far from what I've seen, it's been a very positive thing for bringing this forward, as alotta people have read through it, and understand the entire situation alot better.

I'll definitely let you know about what's coming next. Thanks.
 
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Old May 22, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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neat-o timeline

--Nice work Archangel! Wow you guys even got some nice scans of documents too to show exactly what was discussed. Yes I second DKMini's support for the development of the new racetrack. We've got your back there and you have my support.

Thanks for the good info and cool timeline!
 
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