D Stock Aero Kit and Stock Class?
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From: Philadelphia
Originally Posted by trick
As I suspected. Thanks for the input. There was a smoking deal on an 03 S with the kit, but I'll stick to the plan: Buy new., Get exactly what I want.
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Tempting Jeff. Sounds like a reasonable price, but I really think I'm going to end up holding out for an 05 with LSD.
Besides, if I bought a proven winner I won't have any excuses when I'm DFL.
Besides, if I bought a proven winner I won't have any excuses when I'm DFL.
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Originally Posted by sprcpr
We have several people running in stock classes with body kits.
OVERDRIVE - Racing Champion
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From: Mililani, Hawaii
Originally Posted by trick
So I know the Works bumps you from Stock, but I was curious which side of the fence an Aero kit drops you on. If it's OEM, but dealer installed is it aftermarket?
According to the 2005 SCCA Solo Rules Book
The MC is eligible for:
HS or H-stock
FSP or F Street Prepared
STS or Street Touring S (no R compound tires allowed)
The MCS is eligible for:
GS or G-Stock
DSP or D Street Prepared
ASP or A Street Prepared (only if JCW kit is installed)
STU (new class for JCW MCS)
STX or Street Touring X (no R compound tires allowed)
SM or Street Modified
The MINI aero kit in part or entirety is illegal for:
H-Stock and G-stock (aero kit or parts thereof are not factory installed)
The MINI aero kit bumpers or spoilers only are legal for:
All street prepared classes: FSP, DSP, ASP (aero side skirts are not allowed)
Any aero kit part is legal in:
STS and STX (aero kit parts replace stock parts), STU?
Street Mod class (matches your reduction pulley upgrade)
In my region all stock class MINIs are not allowed to have any aero kit parts installed. You may paint stock side skirts and wheel arches.
The MINI aerokit offers no significant advantage for Solo 2 events so it would not be worth changing classes if there was an option to omit the aerokit. If you are already in Street Mod class then you can do any body kit or body upgrade.
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13.2 BODYWORK
A. Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance, comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted.
I would read this as saying purely cosmetic mods are allowed.
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From: Livermore, CA.
The solo rules build on themselves. If it doesn't say you can, then you can't.
STREET TOURING CATEGORY
14.2
F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional
scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance
is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and
replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function
at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and fender flares.
STREET TOURING CATEGORY
14.2
F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional
scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance
is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and
replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function
at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and fender flares.
OVERDRIVE - Racing Champion
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From: Mililani, Hawaii
Why not - from the rule book...
13.2 BODYWORK
A. Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance, comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted.
I would read this as saying purely cosmetic mods are allowed.
13.2 BODYWORK
A. Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance, comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted.
I would read this as saying purely cosmetic mods are allowed.
Further, for the MINI the aero kits were not factory installed, they were dealer installed so they are not eligible for stock classes based on that as well.
You have to read the rules and scrutinize them. Ask other MINI drivers for help if needed.
OVERDRIVE
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From: Norfolk, VA
The solo rules build on themselves. If it doesn't say you can, then you can't.
STREET TOURING CATEGORY
14.2
F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional
scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance
is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and
replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function
at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and fender flares.
STREET TOURING CATEGORY
14.2
F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, body kits, rear wings and nonfunctional
scoops/vents is allowed. The intent of this allowance
is to accommodate commonly available appearance kits, and
replicas thereof, which have no significant aerodynamic function
at Solo speeds. Body kits are limited to bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and fender flares.
As JustGo4It says, the rules build on themselves, so the section where you first see a particular part specifically allowed is usually the section for the "lowest" (closest to Stock) class that allows that particular part/modification.
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From: Florida
Thanks, Keith
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Yes that's correct. The key thing is that it is "factory installed".
I really wanted the aero kit for our 2006 and was really bummed to find that it wasn't G-stock legal. Good to hear that the R56 aero kits are factory installed. I didn't know that.
I really wanted the aero kit for our 2006 and was really bummed to find that it wasn't G-stock legal. Good to hear that the R56 aero kits are factory installed. I didn't know that.
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I think there are several aero kits for the R56. The factory kit is pretty ugly but may look OK if the wheel arches were painted. The good looking kit is the dealer installed one and the best is the dealer installed JCW aero kit.
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There are only two aero kits available for the R56. The factory aero kit (butt ugly) which is installed at the factory and is legal in GS. The JCW aero kit (cool looking) is installed at the dealer and would not be legal.
Here's the confusing part.
You can now order your R56 with the JCW aero kit (still cool looking) installed at the port before it arrives at the dealer. Would this be legal?
Here's the confusing part.
You can now order your R56 with the JCW aero kit (still cool looking) installed at the port before it arrives at the dealer. Would this be legal?
OVERDRIVE
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Interesting question - I think VDC-installed items are considered "factory".
IIRC, retaining the big honkin' cupholder on the later cars is a requirement for Stock class, since the cupholder is installed at the VDC.
IIRC, retaining the big honkin' cupholder on the later cars is a requirement for Stock class, since the cupholder is installed at the VDC.
OVERDRIVE
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I really think the VDC is considered an extension of the factory production line, rather than falling in the same category as the dealership.
To use the cupholder example from my earlier post - it comes standard with all of the cars, you couldn't delete it from your order if you wanted to, and I think all of the Stock participants at Nationals still had them installed, because they're considered "factory" parts, even though they're not actually installed until the cars reach the VDC.
To use the cupholder example from my earlier post - it comes standard with all of the cars, you couldn't delete it from your order if you wanted to, and I think all of the Stock participants at Nationals still had them installed, because they're considered "factory" parts, even though they're not actually installed until the cars reach the VDC.
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The "comfort & convenience" or "C&C" rule, 13.2.A (page 60), allows you to add items - not remove them. When it says, "...do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted," I should point out that removing any item from your vehicle technically reduces the weight of the car. Doesn't matter if it's insignificant weight or not; the rules say specifically you can't remove weight. You mention this as a dealer accessory - can the dealer get the MINI Cooper from MINI, delivered to the dealership without the cup holder? Then you are allowed to remove it. Basically, if the cup holder was added as a stand-alone component at the request of the dealer or buyer, then you can remove it. If it is part of a "package," then you would be required to remove the complete package (all the other items that came with the cup holder) with the cup holder. As an example, if there was a package that came with wider wheels but the cup holder is part of the package, you can remove the cup holder and the wider wheels. But you can't pick-and-choose the parts you want from incomplete packages. I hope I've explained adequately. Basically, your car has to be in a configuration (including cup holder) as the car could have come from MINI as delivered to the dealer. You can add C&C items and remove them - but accessory packages have to be complete as they came from MINI. I'll be glad to discuss this further anytime.
Hope this helps.
Doug Gill
SCCA Solo Technical Manager
Hope this helps.
Doug Gill
SCCA Solo Technical Manager
Last edited by JustGo4It_; May 10, 2007 at 06:36 PM.
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I don't know what is actually done to the car at the docks themselves, but a significant amount of work is done at the VDC (vehicle distribution center).
For my car, it was taken off the boat in New York City, sent to the VDC in New Jersey where it was cleaned, prepped, and had various parts installed (like the cupholder), before being sent on a truck to my dealer in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
For my car, it was taken off the boat in New York City, sent to the VDC in New Jersey where it was cleaned, prepped, and had various parts installed (like the cupholder), before being sent on a truck to my dealer in Virginia Beach, Virginia.