Its not an 11 ... but they both have the N14... should be the same car.

39K-miles

Looks nice.

https://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/...309447160.html








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That's a "Pano" roof not a hard top... Hard top has no glass...
nice looking car though...

 

Also the 2011 R56 has the N18 engine not the N14. Only JCW still had the N14

 

He's looking for a 2011 JCW, which has the N14.
The 2011/12/13 R56 MCS does have the N18 though.
The 2013 JCW has an uprated/changed N18 with slight differences from the 2011/12-MCS's (can't run it in a 11/12 MCS)

I did miss the "hardtop" part for some reason... Doh !
Although my R56 is a 'slicktop' (aka 'hardtop').... I don't really see the allure... I'd take either.



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Awwww carp, I missed the JCW part lol. I'll just blame it on my tooth ache or maybe I just had a senior moment... 😂

 

Definitely NEEDS to be the 2011 JCW.. hard top vs pano roof, pending the rest of the car, I’m willing to adjust for either..

 

I don't have one, but why a 2011 model? I don't know how many 2011 JCWs were produced, but that seems like a very specific model to be looking for... If you want an LCI with N14, you could expand your range to include 2012.

 

The 2012 is actually benefits from another year of production and refinement (as is with all products) over the 2011 and still retains the N14.





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ive worked on these cars for almost 20 years. I’ve seen the good and the bad with nearly every model, and as much as most would say the N14 is a terrible headache, I perfer it over the N18, but I love the LCI updates and car. The 2011 is the only N14 in an N18 shell, that still fits a least 1 car seat.

and.. I’d rather replace chain assemblies every 30k, than ECUs every 50-60k because oil intrusion😃

 

As for the 2012 model. Even though they had n14, some of the software for the ECU is different, which won’t allow for tuning the same. If you run VINs from 2011 JCWs and 2012 jcws you’ll find a vin break, that also includes a ECU change, that from what I’ve discovered, it’s for the oil pump solenoid, and valvetronic, which has more parts to fail for a car that doesn’t use 1/3 of the info in the ECU

 

I'm taking notes on this. I didn't know the different variances between the years and the little subtle changes.

 

SRICHS

Sincere question.
Specifically... What can you tune on a '11 N14 JCW that you can't on an N18 MCS from 2011??

Were the 2012/13 N18 JCW's not very tunable?



Didn't MINI issue a TSB on the oil wicking issue into the harness N18's and provide an update harness for it to resolve the issue?




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here in IL, it’s actually the fact of setting monitors on the ECU with a tune, that’s MUCH EASIER with an 11 than 12/13. Considering I’ll be still driving it as well as tracking, I need the ability to still get my tags renewed, which seems like trying to pass a MOT in California..

as for the “updated” wiring, that’s a loaded BS.. I’ve installed probably 500 of those, and yet, probably a 1/3 still had problems with a ECU later in life.. I’ve seen more leaks from the wicking harness than some of the original harnesses..

 

Thank you for the reply...

I'm not really clear on what you are saying though.... Tell me if I get it right.

And again...THESE are sincere questions to try to learn more about these cars from someone that has experience with them.

1) The 2011 N14 JCW Mini ECU/modules will allow changes in what what the ECU will monitor and set a CEL for... and therefore makes it easier to run a modified tuning-map while still being able to pass an OBD-II emission systems inspection in the areas of IL that require an emission test to be able to register the car for street use?
Also... The 2007-2010 N14 equipped cars have the same ability... but lack the other desirable LCi 'upgrades'
Is this what you are saying?

2) The N18 wiring "fix" for the 2011-15 R55/56/57/58/59 causes more oil-intrusion issues than it solves..... the replacement harness is inferior to the original one that it replaces.
Is this fair to say?

On all cars that got the wiring harness 'fix' ... if there was oil present at the ECU... were all the ECU's replaced... or only if they failed?
Did that 1/3 of the ECU's that failed later in life fail because of oil intrusion?

Is there a definitive 'fix' for the N18 Oil pressure solenoid control valve wiring harness oil issue??


I've run across a fair amount of the 2011 JCW's out here .... rust free is a nice benefit... and the N14 2011 seems to have lower prices.
Happy to help in your quest as I look for my ideal car.
Are you looking for an excellent condition 2011 JCW... a thrasher, functioning or not,?
I saw a 2011 JCW locally, that is not on the web, for $12,000 with about 15k-miles on it.... Pepper white, with leather interior and pretty much loaded (slick top/antracite HL to boot). One owner.... runs like a top last I saw him at cars and coffee... most shy away from these N14's .... but He's holding out for his price.

You'll see I post a lot in the CL thread here as I'm always on the 'hunt'.

Cheers, and good luck....thanks in advance for fielding my questions.


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1) you are correct, as the 2011 ECU monitors are slightly different, allowing certain manipulation to allow certain faults not to pertain to the vehicle, yet allows the readiness monitors to be active so that when an emission test is performed, it never attempts the test, yet is shown as passing. I haven’t attempted to try a 2007-2010 version, as I’m not interested in that version, so I haven’t done that extensive research about that version of the ECU.

2) the n16/n18 harness is not much of a fix, but more a cover up. Any car that had oil in the ECU at the time of the fix, got a replacement ECU, an engine harness, and the (fix).. yet, 5-6 years later, most of those cars still returned with oil in the engine harness again, some made it to the ECU..

3) there is no corrective fix, just band-aids.

as for what I’m looking for, doesn’t really matter, 2011 JCW.. doesn’t matter what condition, but considering I can fix anything, I’d perfer something not perfect, I can’t justify $15k for a 11 year old car.