I am really confused now lol , I have a 2013 Cooper s hatchback, I have a 1500 dollar budget for some coil overs , mostly spirited street and mountain road driving , some track days , looking for best set up for the money

 

I would do Bilstein B14s:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bilstein...47-139060~bil/

Then, add ECS cup kit install kit:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...31306772749kt/

And an H&R rear sway bar:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...mm/71450-3~hr/

Those three components will put you just under $1500. As long as you don't go too low with the coilovers, you shouldn't need any rear camber arms for the alignment. But, you should save up and have them be your next upgrade.

 

Click here and drink from the fire hose.

My R56 was Sport Suspension and Bilstein B8, which worked well.

Lowering the R56 too much does not help, and can hurt y'know. Good shocks > cheap coilovers + lowered...

Je's my two bits. ;-)

Cheers,

Charlie

 

Amen to that...

Cheers,

Charlie

 

what is height to go with the coil overs , too keep the from getting the camber arms for a bit, and which arms do you recommend? theirs a bunch of different ones on ecstuning, i have everything else in my cart lol

 

I think a max of 1-1.5" drop you should be good.

 

I’ve been really happy with the ST XTA coilovers on my R53. They ride and handle great on the street and performed well the one time it was on the track. They’re made by KW and seem to be a mix of several variants. They are height and rebound adjustable, have linear springs front and rear, and also come with adjustable front camber top mounts. The rebound adjustment for the rear is on top, the same as KW and most other brands, so the strut needs to be removed unless an access hole is drilled or remote adjusting cables are fitted.

The big difference that I know of between the ST’s and KW’s is the ST strut bodies are galvanized, where the KW’s are stainless steel, but the galvanized bodies should be fine unless your cars sees a lot of bad weather.

They usually go on sale or have a rebate at least once a year, and some times ECS offers bonus gift cards at the same time making them even cheaper.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-suspensi...42/18220842kt/

 

Max drop of 15 mm.

Keeps the LCA angle sane, and preserves compression stroke.

Function over form in this case.

Cheers,

Charlie

 

Save up a little more and go with KW.

 

if you appreciate a non-conventional suggestion:

- set of Bilstein B6/B8
- red JCW springs (or keep stock ones if you have the factory sport suspension)
- JCW sway bars (right, do them both front and rear)
- IE fixed camber plates
- proper alignment
- the best tires you can get (at the very least Michelin PSS)

If you want to spend more money later:

- get a Wavetrac or Quaife LSD
- JCW Brembo brakes w/ proper pads (PFC, Endless, Pagid, Ferodo etc.)
- go the ÖHLINS route

JCW suspension including JCW sway bars as well as the factory sport suspension are greatly underappreciated on this forum.
These springs are linear, they're sufficiently stiff and they ensure sufficient suspension travel. The only part I dislike is the quality
of both the factory and JCW dampers, which can be easily resolved by going Bilstein or Koni. BMW/Mini unfortunately chosed to
use cheap BWI dampers. BWI = Beijing West Industries. Chinese owned and made in Eastern Europe. Formerly Delphi. Tough
to find much about this company which I guess says it all.