R50/53 Just did my pulley
Just did my pulley
so I finally pulled the trigger. No other mods yet but I did do the 17% craven speed pulley and it really woke the car up. I definitely want to do more to it but it’s going to take a lot of money to get where I want to go. What are the best mods at this point for HP gains? Should I just save up and do internals and tubing or are there other bolt ons that are worth while?
so I finally pulled the trigger. No other mods yet but I did do the 17% craven speed pulley and it really woke the car up. I definitely want to do more to it but it’s going to take a lot of money to get where I want to go. What are the best mods at this point for HP gains? Should I just save up and do internals and tubing or are there other bolt ons that are worth while?
If you want to go farther...you can do a header, bigger injectors, cam, big valve head, tune.......but now you are talking big money.
Add an intake, cat back exhaust. Throw in some bigger injectors and get it tuned. That will put you right at 200whp. You'll have to spend some big bucks after that to get another 20-30hp.
The first question is how much money do you want to spend? For $10,000 you can get it to 250hp at the wheels.....and be streetable. The only problem is that your buddy's mom's 300hp V6 Toyota Camry will still probably spank you in a drag race.
These cars aren't meant for raw power....they are made to be a blast to drive, and handle awesome around a track. There are 300+up minis out there......but for the cost you could build a 1000hp LS motor and dump it in any old car and run 9's in the 1/4. These really aren't the right car for trying to build big power for cheap.
95% of mini owners do a pulley, intake, and exhaust....and spend the rest of their money on handling and braking mods.
These cars aren't meant for raw power....they are made to be a blast to drive, and handle awesome around a track. There are 300+up minis out there......but for the cost you could build a 1000hp LS motor and dump it in any old car and run 9's in the 1/4. These really aren't the right car for trying to build big power for cheap.
95% of mini owners do a pulley, intake, and exhaust....and spend the rest of their money on handling and braking mods.
Intake and exhaust will help the power.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/02-06-...mance/intakes/
https://www.waymotorworks.com/02-06-...mance/exhaust/
But I'd also do things that will cover maint too like an ATI damper as they are common to fail, but will be a mod as it's lighter and balances the engine better.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
then move onto a cam and injectors
https://www.waymotorworks.com/way-mi...t-r52-r53.html
https://www.waymotorworks.com/02-06-...mance/intakes/
https://www.waymotorworks.com/02-06-...mance/exhaust/
But I'd also do things that will cover maint too like an ATI damper as they are common to fail, but will be a mod as it's lighter and balances the engine better.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
then move onto a cam and injectors
https://www.waymotorworks.com/way-mi...t-r52-r53.html
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A Dinan Stage 1 tune bumped my non-modified R53 by 12hp (163hp to 175hp). Since that mod I added a 15% pulley that, conservatively, added an additional 15hp. The extra 27hp really woke up the little beast but I'm still not looking for Mustangs and Camaros to race. If I wanted to do that, I would have kept my Corvette. A MINI is a whole different driving experience.
I just ordered an HPS intake for it. I already did the factory replacement for the harmonic balancer as that left me stranded as well as an idler pulley a few weeks later. Lmao I also ordered a timing chain tensioner to replace in my driveway to be safe. It seems to be making noise and want to nip that in the bud. I’m guessing injectors and a tune will be soon. Is there any benefit to larger than the 380cc? I will do a cam and exhaust too I’m thinking exhaust will be the next
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The first question is how much money do you want to spend? For $10,000 you can get it to 250hp at the wheels.....and be streetable. The only problem is that your buddy's mom's 300hp V6 Toyota Camry will still probably spank you in a drag race.
These cars aren't meant for raw power....they are made to be a blast to drive, and handle awesome around a track. There are 300+up minis out there......but for the cost you could build a 1000hp LS motor and dump it in any old car and run 9's in the 1/4. These really aren't the right car for trying to build big power for cheap.
95% of mini owners do a pulley, intake, and exhaust....and spend the rest of their money on handling and braking mods.
These cars aren't meant for raw power....they are made to be a blast to drive, and handle awesome around a track. There are 300+up minis out there......but for the cost you could build a 1000hp LS motor and dump it in any old car and run 9's in the 1/4. These really aren't the right car for trying to build big power for cheap.
95% of mini owners do a pulley, intake, and exhaust....and spend the rest of their money on handling and braking mods.
ive seen people with 485 to the wheels and a built motor and sneed does a race motor which will handle 600 they claim. Just not sure how those numbers happen yet. I was thinking 350-400 would be sufficient and of course suspension and brakes would be needed at that. If I did tuning with internals and a sprintex would that be possible or do I need to cheat with water/meth and or nitrous?
ive seen people with 485 to the wheels and a built motor and sneed does a race motor which will handle 600 they claim. Just not sure how those numbers happen yet. I was thinking 350-400 would be sufficient and of course suspension and brakes would be needed at that. If I did tuning with internals and a sprintex would that be possible or do I need to cheat with water/meth and or nitrous?
Have you looked at the Sneed motors? The highest HP "Race" one they list on their website makes 250hp to the wheels, and it's $9,000. Sure...it says it will "handle" 600hp, but it's only making 250hp. So that's $9,000 for a motor that will make 250hp at the wheels......and you want to make 400hp at the wheels? It would be cheaper to buy a different car....you will have $30,000+ in a 400hp mini by the time you are done with the motor/drivetrain mods.
Not saying it can't be done with enough money....but I think you need to be more realistic with your goals.
Last edited by IQRaceworks; Feb 13, 2019 at 04:13 AM.
380 injectors will be maxed out with intake, exhaust and pulley. If you want to add a cam or header you'll want to go with the 440 injectors. If you seriously plan on doing more get the 550's. They can be scaled down with a tune and adjusted as you add parts. RMW can get good reliable power out of these motors. It's not the cheapest car to build and will never be the fastest thing on the street. But how often do you find a high hp Mini?
380 injectors will be maxed out with intake, exhaust and pulley. If you want to add a cam or header you'll want to go with the 440 injectors. If you seriously plan on doing more get the 550's. They can be scaled down with a tune and adjusted as you add parts. RMW can get good reliable power out of these motors. It's not the cheapest car to build and will never be the fastest thing on the street. But how often do you find a high hp Mini?
380 injectors will be maxed out with intake, exhaust and pulley. If you want to add a cam or header you'll want to go with the 440 injectors. If you seriously plan on doing more get the 550's. They can be scaled down with a tune and adjusted as you add parts. RMW can get good reliable power out of these motors. It's not the cheapest car to build and will never be the fastest thing on the street. But how often do you find a high hp Mini?
Point being.....you don't need the 380cc injectors until you get into bigger mods....like cam/head. And yes....if you are going to upgrade them, might as well jump up to the 550's.
When's the last time you heard of an R53 with intake, exhaust, and pulley running lean and eating up a motor because the standard 330cc S injectors couldn't flow enough fuel? Never.
Yeah.....that's really not that crazy for newer turbo'd 4 cylinder cars. But when you are talking about the motors in the R53's.....400hp is at the high end, and pretty darn rare. "Big Power" for the majority of R53 owners is 250hp at the wheels......and that's after investing big money in a new head, cam, and all the other bolt ons to make that stuff work.
Yeah the power goals with the Eaton aren't realistic, but throw a K20 in there with a snail and you can make 900whp if you'd like.
Just gotta see how loose the tolerances on your wallet and credit limit are...
Just gotta see how loose the tolerances on your wallet and credit limit are...
Well realistically like I said I was hoping to be around 350-400 to the wheels knowing full well I’m going to have to do internals and get rid of the stock s/c and get the sprintex and then I’m going to probably have to find a discontinued small pulley for it which should be a fun task. Lol. My next dumb question is can I buy larger injectors than needed now and tune them to work with current mods or just wait till I need larger ones ??
Well realistically like I said I was hoping to be around 350-400 to the wheels knowing full well I’m going to have to do internals and get rid of the stock s/c and get the sprintex and then I’m going to probably have to find a discontinued small pulley for it which should be a fun task. Lol. My next dumb question is can I buy larger injectors than needed now and tune them to work with current mods or just wait till I need larger ones ??
You don't need bigger injectors or a tune for simple bolt ons like intake, exhaust, and pulley.
Not sure how long the rods/crack/block would hold up before you end up punching a hole in the side of the motor. I think the R53 that RMW races put out a little over 400hp...and that's probably one of the highest HP R53's out there. I'd say there is a reason you don't see these motors making 500+hp...or at least for very long.
This was said in jest, while simultaneously accurately suggesting a motor / drivetrain swap to make true power in this chassis.
Edit: these heads just aren't going to flow enough to make big power, and the blowers in general that we're discussing also can't handle it. Efficiency maps are crucial here. You're not going to answer any output-related questions without compressor maps and head flow rates. The 300hp+ cars have headwork that would make it less than ideal for street driving.
If you're going to use the stock Triton 1.6L motor, you will be best served by a turbo. If you MUST continue to use a supercharger, it's gonna have to be a Rotrex.
A K20 is a Honda motor, and is well-documented being swapped into a myriad of FWD cars as well as being able to hold as much power as you can spend.
This was said in jest, while simultaneously accurately suggesting a motor / drivetrain swap to make true power in this chassis.
Edit: these heads just aren't going to flow enough to make big power, and the blowers in general that we're discussing also can't handle it. Efficiency maps are crucial here. You're not going to answer any output-related questions without compressor maps and head flow rates. The 300hp+ cars have headwork that would make it less than ideal for street driving.
If you're going to use the stock Triton 1.6L motor, you will be best served by a turbo. If you MUST continue to use a supercharger, it's gonna have to be a Rotrex.
This was said in jest, while simultaneously accurately suggesting a motor / drivetrain swap to make true power in this chassis.
Edit: these heads just aren't going to flow enough to make big power, and the blowers in general that we're discussing also can't handle it. Efficiency maps are crucial here. You're not going to answer any output-related questions without compressor maps and head flow rates. The 300hp+ cars have headwork that would make it less than ideal for street driving.
If you're going to use the stock Triton 1.6L motor, you will be best served by a turbo. If you MUST continue to use a supercharger, it's gonna have to be a Rotrex.
where do you get the rotrex from? The sprintex with a small pulley won’t do the job?
Yeah.....that's really not that crazy for newer turbo'd 4 cylinder cars. But when you are talking about the motors in the R53's.....400hp is at the high end, and pretty darn rare. "Big Power" for the majority of R53 owners is 250hp at the wheels......and that's after investing big money in a new head, cam, and all the other bolt ons to make that stuff work.








