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Drivetrain And now, I introduce, ducted cooling for the 19% pulley belt

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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And now, I introduce, ducted cooling for the 19% pulley belt

Well, SpunkyTheTuna almost spilled the beans on my latest project since the "race only intake", so here it is:








...again, not street legal. One headlight space is used for the intake, and the other to direct cool air straight onto the belt of a high reduction pulley. This cool air should help with the belt failures of the 19% tracked cars.

The last orifice I am currently playing with is.....the intercooler scoop.


What are your thoughts on this????
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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very creative! I love it.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Very cool Bisch. I saw that first image with the filter just sitting open in the headlight area, and I like the new addition.

Any particular reason you chose to make the intake hole as small as it is? Seems like you left a lot of room you could have played with to make the airflow through their bigger.

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mlebeau

Any particular reason you chose to make the intake hole as small as it is? Seems like you left a lot of room you could have played with to make the airflow through their bigger.

-mike
I have had that NACA duct sitting around for a long time. I thought I would put it to use. It isn't that small. It is 3 inches. At speed that should pull a good amount of air...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Your MINI reminds me of a "pirate" just in time for Sept 19th and "talk like a pirate day".

So one headlight gets the intake to the air filter and the other an air duct to cool the pulley belt.

Next step is to incorporate brake cooling ducts to each of the front brakes at the same time.

Then a larger bonnet scoop for the IC. Then you'll be all scooped out.
 

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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love the creative thinking! but that naca duct probably isn't needed with the airsteam almost normal to the light. that type of duct is typically used when the air flow is parallel to the surface.

do the ic inlet! do the ic inlet! one possibility ( easy to say since it's YOUR car ) : rotate the ic somewhere between 45 degrees and 90 degrees back end up, build a a taller front scoop to cover it, build a closed outlet path behind it, and (perhaps)vent that outlet 2/3 or 3/4 the way aft on the hood.

if i were marketing an improved ic cooling system, i'd sell new rubber connectors to the bullhorns to rotate the ic, and either a whole new composite hood or the new scoop and ducting and templates to cut a stock hood. how about it, vendors, postpone some bling bling stuff and sell this idea ( after bisch is the guinea pig!! )
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flyboy2160
love the creative thinking! but that naca duct probably isn't needed with the airsteam almost normal to the light. that type of duct is typically used when the air flow is parallel to the surface.

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Yes. I know very well the purpose and function of a naca duct. It is not needed for this application, but it looks better than a plain jane hole.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
Well, SpunkyTheTuna almost spilled the beans on my latest project since the "race only intake",
LOL! Sorry about that, I had no idea you were working on that. It just seemed a logical next step to me.

I like it. Be interesting to know if it really does help belt life with the teeny pulley.

Oh, yeah, 'AARRRGHHHHHH!'
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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I think you should just take the whole hood and front body work off. That would really cool things off.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dgszweda1
I think you should just take the whole hood and front body work off. That would really cool things off.
haha yeah, and provide great weight savings...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dgszweda1
I think you should just take the whole hood and front body work off. That would really cool things off.
Damn, your a genius! Why didn't I think of that?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Removing the hood would also help the intercooler.

Another creative idea, Bisch. I wonder though, how much of the breakage/stretchage is related to engine bay heat compared to friction between the pulley and belt.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Removing the hood would also help the intercooler.

Another creative idea, Bisch. I wonder though, how much of the breakage/stretchage is related to engine bay heat compared to friction between the pulley and belt.
I dunno. Maybe Mr. Belt-breaker himself (Randy Webb) should try this.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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You know...the windshield and whole roof thing produces a lot of wind resistance and drag....maybe...





 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Lose all the body panels like :



 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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LOL Bisch... that's great...
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Pully belt breakage.

I don't have one, but I'd guess that the breakage is due to the very short radius of the 19% pully. With the reduced torque on the SC rotors due to the shorter radius, one needs much higher belt tensions to get the needed friction, and eliminate slippage. I'd guess that heat can effect this as well, so you might get some improved life, but if it's really a flex issue, it might not work too well.

Let us know how it works out......

Matt
 
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