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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Fastest 0-60 modded R53?

I know it's not really the point of these cars but I am trying to understand where you can be with roughly $5,000 in modifications and where your 0-60 times will be, I've heard some guys are getting between 300-400 hp but I'm not sure how much they are paying for that kind of HP.

Also, I know traction becomes a big issue but with a really good launch I am curious what these cars can do in a straight line.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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best 0-60 mod would be a quaife LSD. then sticky tires. power is useless if you cannot put it down.


so $1000 for the diff, $600 for tires, $$$$ on light weight wheels depending on whats on there. the "slites" are about 26lb of rotating mass, change to a 16lb wheel theres a noticeable difference in acceleration.


a 220 whp mini which is very attainable at a lower price range with the LSD and good tires will always beat a fully modded BVH or turbo r53 without a LSD from 0-60.


even with my LSD (stock) and 300 treadwear tires, I blow the tires off at 4k rpm from a roll (1st), with mild spinning into 2nd and chirping 3rd. I have a pulley, intake, and full exhaust. good guestimate would be around 190whp. I also have lightweight wheels
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
best 0-60 mod would be a quaife LSD. then sticky tires. power is useless if you cannot put it down.


so $1000 for the diff, $600 for tires, $$$$ on light weight wheels depending on whats on there. the "slites" are about 26lb of rotating mass, change to a 16lb wheel theres a noticeable difference in acceleration.


a 220 whp mini which is very attainable at a lower price range with the LSD and good tires will always beat a fully modded BVH or turbo r53 without a LSD from 0-60.


even with my LSD (stock) and 300 treadwear tires, I blow the tires off at 4k rpm from a roll (1st), with mild spinning into 2nd and chirping 3rd. I have a pulley, intake, and full exhaust. good guestimate would be around 190whp. I also have lightweight wheels
You did not list any 0-60 times so this data does not help.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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first out of the 5k are you doing the LSD yourself or paying someone else? That will determine if are going to be able to budget a big head/cam, and if you are are you paying someone to install it?

There are cheaper LSD's now too
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 01:32 PM
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You did not list any 0-60 times so this data does not help.
He's providing you with advice on where to best invest this arbitrary dollar amount you've stated. You aren't going to get any accurate 0-60 times because an incredibly scarce number of people run proper data loggers. Times recorded from someones phone don't come close to being accurate. Take his response for what it is, sound advice.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 01:59 PM
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As was stated; you have a long road ahead of you..

If you want power (starts at about $10k parts, labor & tuning and goes up from there) you need to transfer it ($1800 clutch & $900 LSD + about $1000 install), then you need the suspension/tire setup to control it ($1500-$5000), then when you're not happy with the power you need to start shaving weight from every corner of the car, race seats, removing the HVAC, removing the sound system, carbon panels, low drag alignments, and at the end of the day you've taken a car that will decimate swarms of manufacturer sport cars and ruined it to have a car that does rolling burnouts at 60.

That said; there are people who have logged 5.5-6.5 second 0-60 times.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stripeknight
You did not list any 0-60 times so this data does not help.
Show some respect.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sevin
Show some respect.
It's not about respect, a specific question was asked and it was not answered.

It was good information, just not specific to the question.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nkfry
As was stated; you have a long road ahead of you..

If you want power (starts at about $10k parts, labor & tuning and goes up from there) you need to transfer it ($1800 clutch & $900 LSD + about $1000 install), then you need the suspension/tire setup to control it ($1500-$5000), then when you're not happy with the power you need to start shaving weight from every corner of the car, race seats, removing the HVAC, removing the sound system, carbon panels, low drag alignments, and at the end of the day you've taken a car that will decimate swarms of manufacturer sport cars and ruined it to have a car that does rolling burnouts at 60.

That said; there are people who have logged 5.5-6.5 second 0-60 times.
It's really no big deal, my Z06 Corvette does 0-60 in under 3 seconds so I have insane speed abilities covered in one of my other cars. I am just curious what some members here have acieved. It seems in general that the community doesnt really have any solid idea what 0-60 times the R53 is capable off though and thats ok. Still an excellent community
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 02:37 AM
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Almost no one here is concerned with 0-60 in their MINI. So most the ones with highly modded MINIs haven't tested for it. Like you if that is what they wanted they'd have bought a different car to start with. It's all about handling, for Auto-x, track days, and back road canyon carving, but you already knew that. 1/4 mile times would be a better indicator then 0-60 but even still not many bother in the MINI. Here is a break down of typical cost for said HP.
Basic Mods, pulley, CAI, cat back, tune = 200 HP +- a few. $800-$1000
Add Cam+ re-tune = 213-220 HP +- $400-$800
Add Header+ re-tune = 218-230 HP+- $800-$1300
Big Valve Head + re-tune = 240-275 HP +- $1800-$2600+ labor to install
All of that is plus or minus depending on what parts you buy, who installs them labor cost wise, and who is doing the tuning of course... Could save alittle money by doing most of them at one time to save on the re-tune cost and or add the cam at same time as head for labor savings etc...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 05:13 AM
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I didn't post any 0-60 since, I haven't not taken the data myself nor do I think anyone spent the time to collect all that data, then all the driving conditions make differences too. surface prep, tire pressure, air temp, tire temp, actual tires.


but yes, should be able to achieve a low 6 or even 5's for 0-60, when I get to the drag strip I can post my times
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 06:52 AM
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I was thinking the Gen 1 "S" cars were listed as 0-60 in 6 to 6.5 seconds stock. Been a long time since reading about them of course.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
I didn't post any 0-60 since, I haven't not taken the data myself nor do I think anyone spent the time to collect all that data, then all the driving conditions make differences too. surface prep, tire pressure, air temp, tire temp, actual tires.


but yes, should be able to achieve a low 6 or even 5's for 0-60, when I get to the drag strip I can post my times
That would be very appreciated, thank you Sir.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltysalt
best 0-60 mod would be a quaife LSD. then sticky tires. power is useless if you cannot put it down.


so $1000 for the diff, $600 for tires, $$$$ on light weight wheels depending on whats on there. the "slites" are about 26lb of rotating mass, change to a 16lb wheel theres a noticeable difference in acceleration.



a 220 whp mini which is very attainable at a lower price range with the LSD and good tires will always beat a fully modded BVH or turbo r53 without a LSD from 0-60.


even with my LSD (stock) and 300 treadwear tires, I blow the tires off at 4k rpm from a roll (1st), with mild spinning into 2nd and chirping 3rd. I have a pulley, intake, and full exhaust. good guestimate would be around 190whp. I also have lightweight wheels

I'm fairly new to mini, lsd is a limited slip diff? And why do i hear people talk about it?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter24
I'm fairly new to mini, lsd is a limited slip diff? And why do i hear people talk about it?

correct, LSD = limited slip differential. it allows one wheel to spin with the other at a certain power reduction, but both wheels will always spin. the stock diff is about 25% locking, a quaife is like 45%. there is practically no negative quality on a LSD, other than the price. wheels can spin at different speeds, helps exiting corners, and helps acceleration
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stripeknight
That would be very appreciated, thank you Sir.
Any updates? I am still looking for any information on a modded R53 -60 time? Can it compete with say a stock modern GT mustang or Evo X in straight line with the right mods???
 
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 02:38 AM
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2015 Mustang is around 4.5 seconds. That's almost 2 seconds faster then a the MINI. Going to be real tough to make that up with FWD. Not saying it can't be done but you better have real deep pockets. Granted on the street it will come down to driver vs driver. Bad driver in the mustang, he smokes the tires you win with a stock MINI. I know this isn't answering your question but just trying to put "times" in perspective. Even if someone comes in here with a 300 hp MINI and claims a time of whatever, 1- who knows if it's true, and 2- how good or bad of a driver are they. Is that a slow time for the car or a fast time for it.. What is you current 0-60 time for your car as it sits now?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by N2MINI
2015 Mustang is around 4.5 seconds. That's almost 2 seconds faster then a the MINI. Going to be real tough to make that up with FWD. Not saying it can't be done but you better have real deep pockets. Granted on the street it will come down to driver vs driver. Bad driver in the mustang, he smokes the tires you win with a stock MINI. I know this isn't answering your question but just trying to put "times" in perspective. Even if someone comes in here with a 300 hp MINI and claims a time of whatever, 1- who knows if it's true, and 2- how good or bad of a driver are they. Is that a slow time for the car or a fast time for it.. What is you current 0-60 time for your car as it sits now?
It looks like from this review that the R53's were originally rated to do 0-60 in 6.6 seconds.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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So now you need good, wide, sticky tires and practice. Some more HP would help of course but you'll need the better traction regardless.
 
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So now you need good, wide, sticky tires and practice. Some more HP would help of course but you'll need the better traction regardless.
Absolutely agree
 
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And don't forget, better traction means better axles...
The only reason the stock axles survive in a high HP Mini from a stop, is because of No Traction.
 
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Old thread, but I'd like to contribute nonetheless. Using my buddies VBox I hit a 5.8 0-60 today with a low RPM launch on street tires.

R53 with 17% pulley and street tires - 17" Nankang tires, 205 width.

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Originally Posted by Grip Grip
Old thread, but I'd like to contribute nonetheless. Using my buddies VBox I hit a 5.8 0-60 today with a low RPM launch on street tires.

R53 with 17% pulley and street tires - 17" Nankang tires, 205 width.

I am the OP of this old thread, a regular here and I really appreciate the post.
 
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If you are wanting 0-60 quickness....FWD cars are not what you want. The harder you accelerate, the more weight that gets transfers to the rear of your car, and off of the front wheels. These cars are made to handle twisty roads, not drag strips
 
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Originally Posted by IQRaceworks
If you are wanting 0-60 quickness....FWD cars are not what you want. The harder you accelerate, the more weight that gets transfers to the rear of your car, and off of the front wheels. These cars are made to handle twisty roads, not drag strips
yeah but my slightly modded R53 feels fast, despite the fact that I occasionally drive a new Z06. I just want to get my Mini to be able to compete with cars like new Golf R's if that is possible.
 
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