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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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JCW 18" wheel questions

Where are you guys getting your wheels from and who are you dealing with? I have been trying to get infomation, pricing, avaiability, pictures etc from a few companies and it is like pulling teeth to give them my money.

Is it because it is such a small market and the purchase is a small one. Customer service and returning emails is not their forte.

I tell you in another world you just mention you would like wheels and about 15 companies are sending you info and pricing to get your business.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
Where are you guys getting your wheels from and who are you dealing with? I have been trying to get infomation, pricing, avaiability, pictures etc from a few companies and it is like pulling teeth to give them my money.

Is it because it is such a small market and the purchase is a small one. Customer service and returning emails is not their forte.

I tell you in another world you just mention you would like wheels and about 15 companies are sending you info and pricing to get your business.
The F56 JCW is simply too new....it will take awhile for aftermarket wheel manufacturers to test the market & spend the development money to design & manufacture wheels to fit the "unique" JCW Brembo brakes and everything else that makes the fit tight!

I am working with BBS right now...they are interested, but need dimensions.

Time will tell...for me personally, I don't like using spacers unless they are really thin (i.e. 3mm to 5mm)....JCW's need 12Mmm to 15mm, maybe more to make some non-JCW designed wheels fit & look close to anything resembling a proper fitment.

It's a challenge. I saw this coming before I even ordered my JCW. It was very obvious that MINI designed the wheels probably "last" to fit the car! LOL!

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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:59 PM
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Same here on the spacers. No go for me.

I know there are two companies making them but man they don't like to return communication. Almost like to small of a purchase for them or something. Crazy. I am ready to give them my money, just want a few pics and questions answered.

I too am working another angle. There is a wheel company that made me a custom set for a GT500 and they are local. He is talking to his designer to check as well. Most likely I would need to give him my car for a few hrs to get all the measurements done but at least he is returning calls and emails.

Oh well, maybe we can get some non spacer needed wheels here soon.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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I went through Jerry over at NM Engineering. He took some VW wheels he has and cnced the center bore and lug to fit the Mini JCW. I have no complaints at all.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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I went through Jerry over at NM Engineering. He took some VW wheels he has and cnced the center bore and lug to fit the Mini JCW. I have no complaints at all.
What are you finding is the critical design feature for aftermarket wheels......the wheel offset?...the curvature of the spokes to clear the Brembo?...use of spacers?....or a combination of features?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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What are you finding is the critical design feature for aftermarket wheels......the wheel offset?...the curvature of the spokes to clear the Brembo?...use of spacers?....or a combination of features?
I think wheel offset and curvature of the spoke to clear the Brembos are the two big issues were facing when trying to find aftermarket wheels but I'm no wheel expert. I did post pictures up in the wheel thread though if you want to look at the ones I put on.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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I think wheel offset and curvature of the spoke to clear the Brembos are the two big issues were facing when trying to find aftermarket wheels but I'm no wheel expert. I did post pictures up in the wheel thread though if you want to look at the ones I put on.
Yes, I saw your wheel pics & posted also...I think it really came out nicely...better stance too. So, you went with 215/40/18 tires. What offset on those wheels? Did you use spacers? I'm thinking a 7.5" wheel might not be so tight in there. The 215's look fine, but I think that's most likely the minimum width tire for an 8" wide rim.

I'd love to go 235/35/18's on 18"x8" rims (since that's the exact OD as the stock 205/40/18's)...but that ain't happening...LOL! The wider tires on the F56 would just look sooooo much better! But, drivability can be affected I suppose (tramlining, etc.). The 215's are likely the best non-stock choice & it doesn't screw with the speedo too much.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 08:20 PM
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I have been dealing with Jerry but communication and responding is as about as slow as can be. He mentioned the VW wheel option could have some rubbing, not the wheel but the tire. He stated in mid Feb there will be a set made without spacers needed and specific for JCW but I don't have all the info because he hasn't responded in 4 days. It's like pulling teeth to give someone my money for wheels.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 05:45 AM
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Yes, I saw your wheel pics & posted also...I think it really came out nicely...better stance too. So, you went with 215/40/18 tires. What offset on those wheels? Did you use spacers? I'm thinking a 7.5" wheel might not be so tight in there. The 215's look fine, but I think that's most likely the minimum width tire for an 8" wide rim.

I'd love to go 235/35/18's on 18"x8" rims (since that's the exact OD as the stock 205/40/18's)...but that ain't happening...LOL! The wider tires on the F56 would just look sooooo much better! But, drivability can be affected I suppose (tramlining, etc.). The 215's are likely the best non-stock choice & it doesn't screw with the speedo too much.
I did not use spacers and there ET45, I think you could get away with 225 tires, attached are a few pictures of the back and as you can see there snug up front just like stock barley clearing the brakes.








 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
I have been dealing with Jerry but communication and responding is as about as slow as can be. He mentioned the VW wheel option could have some rubbing, not the wheel but the tire. He stated in mid Feb there will be a set made without spacers needed and specific for JCW but I don't have all the info because he hasn't responded in 4 days. It's like pulling teeth to give someone my money for wheels.
I would call Jerry, that is the best way he told me to get ahold of him. Instead of his personal extension do the sales one and just ask for him.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 05:59 AM
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With your exact set up, any rubbing at all? You are on a 15 JCW HT 2 door correct? I wonder how the clearance would be if you had KW's coilovers.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
With your exact set up, any rubbing at all? You are on a 15 JCW HT 2 door correct? I wonder how the clearance would be if you had KW's coilovers.
Mines a 2016 JCW 2d HT and no rubbing at all so far and yesterday I dropped it some on NM springs and still good. As for coilovers I don't know, have the DDC and I think the only coilovers that would work cost over 2k so I definitely didn't go that route.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 06:17 AM
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Mines a 2016 JCW 2d HT and no rubbing at all so far and yesterday I dropped it some on NM springs and still good. As for coilovers I don't know, have the DDC and I think the only coilovers that would work cost over 2k so I definitely didn't go that route.
Ok thanks. Jerry did say he thought the VW wheel option the tires on the inside might rub a bit and that is why I didn't continue to explore that route.

This week I hope to get more answers. We shall see.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 06:35 AM
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No problem man, I know it sucks cause you want to pull the trigger and get aftermarket wheels but you don't want to throw money away getting the wrong wheel. So far though I'm really happy with my RSe12s.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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No problem man, I know it sucks cause you want to pull the trigger and get aftermarket wheels but you don't want to throw money away getting the wrong wheel. So far though I'm really happy with my RSe12s.
Here's a thought.....maybe when the new MINI JCW GP is released the powers to be at MINI will produce some wheels that are more suitable for the JCW (I.e. more styles) so we JCW owners won't have to rig aftermarket wheels to get the fit & finish we prefer (I know I'm dreaming)! ☺
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 07:17 AM
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I bet here in the next year well see a few companies come out with wheels that will fit but I have a feeling there not going to be cheap.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 07:19 AM
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Isn't your wheels simply sized 18"x7", 5x112 ? Most places you call today using vehicle specs alone will be scratching their heads since the data your using ( Year, Make, Mod ) is not in any data base they use.

I am currently not aware of ANY 17" wheels which will clear the stock JCW Calipers on an F model. Even the MINI racing team had to swap their JCW Calipers out for the Stock S ones so they could fit the 17" Conti Challenge tires on the car to meet regs. So would
guess options are reserved for 18 and 19 ?

Try these guys: http://m.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-w...-years/18-inch

They have 4 and 5 bolt wheels for all year JCW's - according to their web site - and a very nice selection.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 07:47 AM
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My stock ones were 17x7 and I put on 18x8s. They are 5x112 with a center bore of 66.5mm. This is why some of us had Jerry over at NM Engineering cnc the center bore and lug nut holes on some VW wheels so we could get wheels that would clear the brakes and not need spacers.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 08:50 AM
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My stock ones were 17x7 and I put on 18x8s. They are 5x112 with a center bore of 66.5mm. This is why some of us had Jerry over at NM Engineering cnc the center bore and lug nut holes on some VW wheels so we could get wheels that would clear the brakes and not need spacers.
Did you measure the the outside width of your NM wheels? Is the 66.5mm bore opening the stock size?

I have a spare new wheel, and I measured the rim widths on my stock JCW 18" two-tone cup spoke wheel, and the inside is 7", the overall rim width (outside) is 18". I forgot to measure the center bore opening (already put it back in the box).

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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
Isn't your wheels simply sized 18"x7", 5x112 ? Most places you call today using vehicle specs alone will be scratching their heads since the data your using ( Year, Make, Mod ) is not in any data base they use.

I am currently not aware of ANY 17" wheels which will clear the stock JCW Calipers on an F model. Even the MINI racing team had to swap their JCW Calipers out for the Stock S ones so they could fit the 17" Conti Challenge tires on the car to meet regs. So would
guess options are reserved for 18 and 19 ?

Try these guys: http://m.wheelbasealloys.com/alloy-w...-years/18-inch

They have 4 and 5 bolt wheels for all year JCW's - according to their web site - and a very nice selection.
Those wheels are BBS and HRE money. I have never heard of them and certainly wouldn't spend that kind of dough on not a major brand. HRE will make you anything you want. Just costs lots of money.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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Those wheels are BBS and HRE money. I have never heard of them and certainly wouldn't spend that kind of dough on not a major brand. HRE will make you anything you want. Just costs lots of money.
New MINI wheels for the F56 JCW run right around $400, so until an aftermarket supplier can produce a wheel in that price range, I don't think the demand is going to be there (i.e. for $750 to $1,000 per wheel)...not me anyway!

FWIW, I put in my plug to BBS for a proper fitting wheel in that price range ($400)....we'll see. I think there will be enough demand, so we'll see who ponies up to grab the market!

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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 02fanatic
New MINI wheels for the F56 JCW run right around $400, so until an aftermarket supplier can produce a wheel in that price range, I don't think the demand is going to be there (i.e. for $750 to $1,000 per wheel)...not me anyway!

FWIW, I put in my plug to BBS for a proper fitting wheel in that price range ($400)....we'll see. I think there will be enough demand, so we'll see who ponies up to grab the market!

John
I also just shot a note to a guy I know over at HRE. We shall see.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:32 PM
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HRE is out. Can do $1,400 A WHEEL.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 02fanatic
Did you measure the the outside width of your NM wheels? Is the 66.5mm bore opening the stock size?

I have a spare new wheel, and I measured the rim widths on my stock JCW 18" two-tone cup spoke wheel, and the inside is 7", the overall rim width (outside) is 18". I forgot to measure the center bore opening (already put it back in the box).

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I did not taken any measurements I hate to say, I took Jerry at his word on stufg that the stock bore size is 66.5 and they were 18x8, If I remember right Mini says that is the OEM bore size and I did put the wheels next to each other and there definitely bigger and wider than stock.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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I did not taken any measurements I hate to say, I took Jerry at his word on stufg that the stock bore size is 66.5 and they were 18x8, If I remember right Mini says that is the OEM bore size and I did put the wheels next to each other and there definitely bigger and wider than stock.

That's ok...I'll measure at some point. I have a spare JCW cap also, so I can measure that....would be nice to be able to put JCW caps on new wheels.

I'm still working with BBS....gave them my dimensions. They will try to get ahold of a JCW from a dealer near them in Georgia when in stock.

FWIW, my spare JCW 18" cup-spoke wheel says "RONAL" on the back side...hmmmmm!

Just a matter of time until factory spec aftermarket wheels will be out there for the JCW is my guess!

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