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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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What happened to the Mini-Mania car

at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix?
I've heard several thoughts, but if anyone knows the real scoop, I'd like to hear where a weak spot might be.
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Anyone?

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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What did it blow up or something?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Mini Mania Car.

Isn't that the car that got forced off the track at east meets west, and came back tothe paddock with it's front wheels pointing outward?

Winched in to the trailer and left for home (California) imeadiatly for repairs?

Then again I may have the wrong car.

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Old Jul 20, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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I heard it plasmified.

Into the ether.

But that's probably not true. (If I could put a smilie here, I would because I'm teasing.)

This is the best I can do.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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This was at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix

This past weekend, (July 17, 18) in the Mini vs MINI race.. There were two MINI's neither finished the race, one caught a curb and I heard the other had some engine trouble..
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Hey! I have those Spongebob boxers!
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Aren't you glad I erased your legs and stomach?

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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What happened to the Mini Mania car

Mini Mania repaired collision damage in Chicago and went on to Pittsburgh where we ran several events. In the featured MINI/Mini race we lost a belt which caused the dnf. The belt was replaced and the car driven back to the campground where it was loaded for the long trek home. We have a solution to the belt issue in the works.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Glad to hear it wasn't anything major!

I've been on the pulley fence for quite some time, waiting for legitimate failures to identify and fix weak spots.. Before your incident, as long as you had the right size belt, 19% was no problem, guess I'lll wait to hear the full details of your failure and fix..
Car looked good by the way, any idea what the Mini you were dicing with was running?
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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jimb is from MINI Mania.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jimb
We have a solution to the belt issue in the works.
So where has this belt issue come from? All of a sudden every Mini in competition is throwing belts. What have you guys done to your cars to cause this?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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I am curious too as there are many people running the 19% pulley with no problems with their belts.


It seems the problems are coming from vendors and the likes racing their cars on the track. My guess is that all of these people are running at an elevated redline @7500 rpm, which is 1,000 rpm above the supercharger limit with the 19% pulley. We may start seeing superchargers failing as well, but that is too be expected when everyone seems to be running over 10% above the redline of the SC.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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If it is indeed the high revs that are causing the belt problems it is probably a tensioner issue.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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So where has this belt issue come from? All of a sudden every Mini in competition is throwing belts. What have you guys done to your cars to cause this?
I would like to RE-VISIT this issue, since I will be hitting the track HARD and SOON

In the EAST-meets WEST ?race, I heard, from a pro, the new MINIS all lost-broke their belts and DNF ... Is this true?

Is this with 15% pulleys? or 17-19 % pulleys ?

? What is the solution ? Is there a stronger belt available for the track ????

Phil
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I DID find some info from another thread on this, thanks
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Hey red rage, come to Mid-Ohio April 1-3 with NASA/Ohio-Indiana. You can do all three, two, or only 1 day.

https://www.nasaproracing.com/nasa_e.../?event_id=203
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tontobird
Hey red rage, come to Mid-Ohio April 1-3 with NASA/Ohio-Indiana. You can do all three, two, or only 1 day.

https://www.nasaproracing.com/nasa_e.../?event_id=203
I WOULD LOVE TOO definitely BUT, I am already prepping my car at the BeaverRun Track on April 2-3, open for the ONELAP of AMERICA participants, or any others I believe

Maybe I could do the Friday event, then drive to ?Wampum , PA to do BeaverRun ? Wanna Join Me !?

Phil
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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I'm already registered and paid for all three days at Mid-Ohio. Are you going to do One Lap this year?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tontobird
I'm already registered and paid for all three days at Mid-Ohio. Are you going to do One Lap this year?
Yes, I will, come HELL or HIGH WATER ...

I just hope I have a race partner, haven't heard from him in a month !!!

Maybe I will meet you on Friday, when does it start on Friday ?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Gates, tech and sign in open at 7am. Link to schedule:

http://www.racenasa.com/SCHEDULE_MIDOHIAPRIL05.htm


Have you seen this account of a MINI doing the OTC?

http://www.onelapadventure.com

There will be three MINI's that I know of (includes me) doing all three days. Surely at least one or two more will show up that I'm unaware of.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Good write-ups, thanks for the link , hope to see you on the 1st
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Are you registering for the 1st? In any case, you'll find the three of us together, DS/B, and 2 IB/W. Will be on the lookout for you. If not, good luck with the One Lap!!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Red Rage - you still have a partner! I haven't been abel to do anything - including sleep - for the last few weeks. I've just hired two more guys to help out, so things should start to settle down a bit now.

As far as the Mania West meets East, I was there racing in the Webb Motorsports "Mule", and I saw the issue in my mirror. I had already passed the "Super Cooper S", but shortly after the pass I made on Don, the Mania car was involved with an on-track accident with a classic Mini racer. I didn't see the car race again after the incident - it certainly didn't start the main event or the hardship run after that.

All of the cars at the event, including mine, were running 19% pulleys, and all lost there belts - some lost more than one! I now run a 15%, and have been able to make more peak power with that (Although there is more power in the lower RPMs with a 19%).

I have had a failure on every car I have installed the 19% pulley on that runs at the track - and I don't increase the redline on those cars. If you track your car, I HIGHLY recommend you stick with the 15%.

Hope that helps!

Randy
 
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