Am referring to the new motor, new technology like hud, idrive etc. in the hardtop..

Why the lag until these are applied to the rest of the line?

Production capacity restrictions? Capital requirements? Historically slow mini being historically slow? Other?

Sorry for my ignorance, am not as familiar with the historical go to market strategies of the brand as many of you probably are. And my apologies if this has been discussed ad nauseum already....

Yes I know there is always something better the next year and live for today..But it strikes me that an LCI in 2015 is about a year too late. In looking at a 2015 acquisition (due to when my X3 lease is up) I find myself wishing my timing was going to be better relative to when I think a much updated car will become available.

 

Good business sense. It's way too costly to update your entire line in one go. They have a staggered update schedule to keep earnings and expenses relatively steady.

 

I think "the rest of the line" is getting some re-evaluation, for one. We're getting a 5-door hatch, and a convertible. Those will share the F56 engine(s) and new electronics. Remains to be seen for the Coupe and Roadster; and if those are being retired (which I've read is likely), then why spend $$ to adapt/include the new features? Similarly with the CM/PM; the "new Clubman" will soon replace the CM as the 4-door "big MINI", so no rush to do anything with the current R6x models.

Also, given that each Gen was designed around its engine choice(s), it's not like it's a cinch to put the new series 1.5 and 2.0 in the R5x/R6x chassis.

 

I'm thinking It would be a foolish risk for a manufacturer to use an entirey new unproven drivetrain and systems across entire model line without two to three years of end user trials.

 

BMW put the new N20 in the X3 28i, 328i, 528i now 228i, 428i, x4 28i

The mothership goes to market exactly that way.

Not sure what you meant by the next R6x won't use the correct N56 configuration? Maybe that's the reasoning??

 

BMW uses a 7 year production cycle to amortize its investment. New product rolls out in segments both for marketing advantages and to smooth the roller coaster of sales peaks and valleys. Cash flow, logistics, etc.

 

The R20 engine started rolling out in 2011 and was just one of a few engine options "spreading risk".

I don't think the next generation R60/61 S models will use the same configuration as the new 2.0 in the F56S, because the power output is to low.

I have no idea what mothership means...sorry.

 

Interesting...Reading-up on speculative future model line-up's, I wonder if they will even offer a CM and the rumored SUV??



ps - mothership referred to (BMW) and their launch of the N20 four pot.

 

That didn't stop them from using the same engine in the R56 hatchback for the R60/61.

 

Based on everything I have read, the next CM will up scale a little and share a platform with BMW. The Paceman will share a platform with a new BMW X2 coupe crossover, and the new F56 platform will get a sedan, wagon and convertible. BMW may be planning to reskin the X1 platform to create the Countryman, Paceman and X2, it would make a lot of since.

 

Good point.

 

...and, the R60/61 were designed to use the R56 engine(s) from the beginning. It wasn't adapted to use these, like they'd need to do to put the F56 engine(s) in them. That'd be a lot of work for models that will be replaced or retired (soon).

 

It's no doubt the currently R models will not get the f56 drivetrain, it would add zero value because most people could care less who owns the engine manufacturing facility.

 

spring 14 (Genf): 3 door
fall 14 (Paris): 5 door
spring 15 (Genf): Clubman
fall 15 (Frankfurt): convertible

spring 2016 (New York International Auto Show) concept CM
fall 2017 (Frankfurt) CM
spring 2018 (Genf) CM JCW with 260 hp

RIP: PM

2010 was rollout of the CM. BMW/Mini has a 7 life cycle of its models. LCI (life cycle impulse) "facelift" after round 3.5 years.

Contract with Magna Steyr/Austria for the "old" CM/PM does not end before 2016. New CM will be manufactuced in the Netherlands.

That`s what I know here in Germany. Do know everything is certain or not.

 

Hope your wrong about Mini bailing on the coupe crossover segment, I personally would like to stick with the brand.

 

The Paceman is dead.

 

BMW X2 due 2017, second-generation Mini Countryman and Paceman confirmed...but as we all know that shifts with the wind.


http://www.caradvice.com.au/278780/b...firmed-report/