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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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What is the fastest Cooper S 1/4 mile time?

I need a milestone to shoot for in my project car. Please give me times for all levels pulley upgrades,nitrous, turbos etc. ET's and trap speeds would be awesome.

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Welcome to NAM. Use the search feature in the upper corner. Here is the "unofficial" link.
http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/mini/d...artermile.html


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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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awesome!

Thanks, so high 12's is the benchmark huh... Methinks I can do that and I have just the turbo for it.


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Welcome to NAM. Use the search feature in the upper corner. Here is the "unofficial" link.
http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/mini/d...artermile.html



click pic for better view :D
His, Chile RED over, Madness intake, Magnaflow exhaust, Helix 15% Pulley & RDR Swaybar
Hers, Electric Blue / Union Jack on top and BONE Stock
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Thanks, so high 12's is the benchmark huh... Methinks I can do that and I have just the turbo for it.
Turbo, huh... let's hear it...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Turbo, huh... let's hear it...
I recently purchased a mini S. And the people that know me know I can't leave well enough alone. I did some testing on the fuel system last week and I have a clear plan on what needs to be done to safely make big power with this car. I have "THE" turbo enroute to me and my piggyback is on the car and communicating beautifully with it. I have control of fuel, timing, Loop tuning (inputting an air fuel ratio and the car self tunes) and also extra injector or water sprayer/injection or nitrous control. I have the general layout of the design on paper. The fuel injectors are being spec'd as well and I should have an answer on those this afternoon. Once all this stuff arrives its simply fabricating the system up.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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You'll have to excuse our scepticism. Many, many tuners and owners here have been tuning and turboing etc.,etc. This car is not easy. I'm not saying that you can't do it...I don't know you, or your capabilities. I certainly wish you luck, and we all may be able to assist you along the way. Many people on this board know every possible working of this car. PLease keep us up to date with your work. We will be anxiously waiting...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
You'll have to excuse our scepticism. Many, many tuners and owners here have been tuning and turboing etc.,etc. This car is not easy. I'm not saying that you can't do it...I don't know you, or your capabilities. I certainly wish you luck, and we all may be able to assist you along the way. Many people on this board know every possible working of this car. PLease keep us up to date with your work. We will be anxiously waiting...
A little about me. I own Psi-Fi Motorsports, our business is custom turboing and custom tuning cars. We campaign a dodge SRT-4 in Sport FWD class, the car is just about complete and we expect to run 9's with it. Our turbo Kit for the SRT puts down 400whp and runs 11's out of the box. I have done the diagnostics on the mini already and have a clear idea on what needs to be done. I also have vast experience with drive by wire, as I own the AWE silverbulletS4 featured in European Car and Sport Compact car. I already know the problems codes that are going to creep up and how to tune and work around them, as I have been down this road before. I'd be willing to bet that the mini ecu is alot "easier" to work with than the S4's DBW motronic system. Thanks for your offer of help, I will probably take you up on this.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Psi-Fi
A little about me. I own Psi-Fi Motorsports, our business is custom turboing and custom tuning cars. We campaign a dodge SRT-4 in Sport FWD class, the car is just about complete and we expect to run 9's with it. Our turbo Kit for the SRT puts down 400whp and runs 11's out of the box. I have done the diagnostics on the mini already and have a clear idea on what needs to be done. I also have vast experience with drive by wire, as I own the AWE silverbulletS4 featured in European Car and Sport Compact car. I already know the problems codes that are going to creep up and how to tune and work around them, as I have been down this road before. I'd be willing to bet that the mini ecu is alot "easier" to work with than the S4's DBW motronic system. Thanks for your offer of help, I will probably take you up on this.
Thanks for the intro. I now see that you are "the real deal". Are you Mark? or Ant?

You are well respected on the SRT forums. After seeing some of your work,I am REAL ANXIOUS to see what you produce!!!!

WELCOME!
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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So, this is your monster?!
http://www.modified.com/media/images...l/IMG_6148.jpg
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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OOOOOOOOOH, this is cool. Do your thing Psi-fi, put the MINI on the 1/4 mile MAP. Can you give me a prediction as to what kinda times you think your going to be able to put down, as 12's, even though better than 13's is not good enough for me. I want to see MINI dominate ALL. theres no Evil smiley so take this guy... , twice even. thanks
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
Yes thats our car, its all apart right now waiting on the fully built engine and automatic transmission. We are working with Darryl ***(team mopar) and our goal is to end the Honda dominance in Sport FWD/Pro-Am. I'm Mark, Ant drives the Team Tow Truck a 2004 Hemi Ram soon to be turbo charged and intercooled with a monster Innovative turbo, we expect 500+whp on only 8psi boost with the truck.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sfjames2
OOOOOOOOOH, this is cool. Do your thing Psi-fi, put the MINI on the 1/4 mile MAP. Can you give me a prediction as to what kinda times you think your going to be able to put down, as 12's, even though better than 13's is not good enough for me. I want to see MINI dominate ALL. theres no Evil smiley so take this guy... , twice even. thanks
The turbo I spec'ed out for this project is good too 350hp. it's very efficient(cool boost) at 275hp and with the supercharger underdriven(we're going to test differnent pulleys to lower the S/C boost and balance the spool of the turbo) the AIT's shouldnt be that bad. Our goal is streetable 12 second performance, i dont foresee why we cant run high 12's at 250-275whp. we do this all the time in the heavier SRT on drag radials. As I said previosly we can control water sprayers and water injection(we have tuned in a rally style pulse width modulation aquamist 2c system with great results on the SRT.) All of these controls are done with our piggyback ecu. I feel the biggest obstacle in the mini in a compound charged situation is the AIT's. the closer we can pull them down towards ambient the more power and safer power we can make.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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thanks for the response Psi-fi. Can't wait to see wutcha guys can do with the MINI. Good luck btw on removing Honda from the throne. :smile:
 
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Aloha from Hawaii and welcome to NAM.

Sounds scary fast!

Any time element on your project for turbo kit for the Cooper S?
Any idea about how much it might run? More than $3500 for parts?
Any idea if you'd do a turbo kit for the normally aspirated Cooper (MC)?

Does your test MCS have Quaife Limited slip differential? Does that matter?
Would you have concerns about using the turbo kit you are planning with any of the stock MINI transmissions? Getrag 6 speed, stock 5 speed or CVT, and later on the Getrag 5 speed for the MC next year.

Please do keep us up to date with this project and post pictures as you have things ready.

Thanks for posting. Very exciting.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Some Info!

Any time element on your project for turbo kit for the Cooper S?
We can usually get the fabrication end done relatively quickly, and tuning doesn't take that long as well. what we spend considerable time on is putting some miles on the car and actually trying to break things.
Any idea about how much it might run? More than $3500 for parts?
No estimated price yet, but we don't use cheap parts.
Any idea if you'd do a turbo kit for the normally aspirated Cooper (MC)?
As far as I know there is a company developing a standard Cooper kit, and I was actually speaking with them about possibly tuning some of their other kits.
Does your test MCS have Quaife Limited slip differential? Does that matter?
No it has the standard diff, the majority of SRT-4's we see have standard diffs with )4's having quaife standard. The quaife will always help.
Would you have concerns about using the turbo kit you are planning with any of the stock MINI transmissions? Getrag 6 speed, stock 5 speed or CVT, and later on the Getrag 5 speed for the MC next year.
As I posted above I plan on beating the ever loving hell out of the car to see how much power it can take before things start to break, once I find the limit I will back it off a few notches.

Please do keep us up to date with this project and post pictures as you have things ready.
Will Do!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Psi-Fi
my piggyback is on the car and communicating beautifully with it. I have control of fuel, timing, Loop tuning (inputting an air fuel ratio and the car self tunes) and also extra injector or water sprayer/injection or nitrous control.
Would you please share your wiring diagram for the piggyback with us?

Which one are you using?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMCS
Would you please share your wiring diagram for the piggyback with us?

Which one are you using?
Sorry don't have a wiring schematic drawn up on paintshop yet, we use our own Piggyback ecu called the Psi-Fi Power-Paq. controls ignition advance and retard, fuel via map or mass air control,Air fuel ratio tuning, extra injector/nos/water injection control, adjustable external switch and sensor calibration. we also use turbosmart products including the Eboost boost control, wastegates and BOV's.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Mark, any updates to share?
 
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Wow, interesting thread! I dunno how I missed this before!

And do I understand that you're twin-charging it? Cool stuff.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Just received the turbo, got all the flanges machined and the injectors will be here on tuesday. I hope to start work on the manifold this week can't wait to see how the car performs with ALOT more power. We're really busy here right now getting our Sport FWD/ProAm drag SRT-4 finished. Just picked up the motor and trans last week from Darrell ***(Team Mopar). we are putting the new driveline back in it then I have to tune the standalone in from scratch. We are going to attempt to break the world record with this car 9.5@151.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Awesome! Can't wait to see the results of both cars!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Update!

Originally Posted by Bisch
Awesome! Can't wait to see the results of both cars!
Just to let you guys know...

I am wideband tuning in a 420cc injector/19% pulley program in this weekend the I'll pop in the 530's and start tuning for the BIG turbo!

We test fit the turbo(it all fits beautifully) and have "EVERYTHING" here to finish prototyping the basic kit. The base kit is expected to have 235-250whp with upgrade components and tuning to 300+whp. The hopes are to have parts on the shelf in about 4-5 weeks for the Compound Boost Kit.
 
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that sounds great....so with this new setup...any cost ideas? approximate horsepower? oh yeah and....is there a warranty? thanks a lot...
 
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nbame786
that sounds great....so with this new setup...any cost ideas? approximate horsepower? oh yeah and....is there a warranty? thanks a lot...
cost about $4k for he base kit and about $5k for the crazy power levels(the $1k is basically failsafes/safegaurds)
 
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Sounds like a helluva project.

What are your plans to beef up the drivetrain to be able to handle all this power reliably in adverse conditions over and over again? What about traction, any suspension tuning?
 
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