R61 Getting Paceman in about a week, have concerns...
Getting Paceman in about a week, have concerns...
Hey,
I'm taking delivery of an all-4 Paceman within the next week or so, (Currently at VDC) and I have concerns. I've been poking around the forums while I've been waiting, and it seems like the Countryman has been plagued with engine and electrical issues. I know the Paceman is supposed to be a 2-door version of the Countryman so I'm assuming that the engine is going to be the same. Have any of you noticed issues with the 2013/2014 models?
Thanks,
RavenGirl
I'm taking delivery of an all-4 Paceman within the next week or so, (Currently at VDC) and I have concerns. I've been poking around the forums while I've been waiting, and it seems like the Countryman has been plagued with engine and electrical issues. I know the Paceman is supposed to be a 2-door version of the Countryman so I'm assuming that the engine is going to be the same. Have any of you noticed issues with the 2013/2014 models?
Thanks,
RavenGirl
Had mine only for about three months but no issues so far, it does exactly what I wanted to do, fun to drive, the backseats can hold an adult for a short time without too much of an issue, and I can move my bikes around.
No Issues - Paceman S 2013
Four months and 2100 miles - no issues at all. The body is tight, no rattles or noises. Not burning oil on break-in at all. I just wish they would get a working iPhone 5 adapter......
I am in Las Vegas, and we have yet to see another Paceman on the road. You see lots of the CountryMan, though.
David
I am in Las Vegas, and we have yet to see another Paceman on the road. You see lots of the CountryMan, though.
David
I have almost 4k miles on my '13 (had it since august), only possible problem I've run into is a possible rattle from the transmission but it seems to be isolated to just my car (if it's even an actual problem, haven't talked to the dealer yet). It's been an AWESOME car so far.
When it comes to new cars you are bound to run into a problem here and there. It'll seem much worse when you look around forums because that's one of the first places people go when they run into any problems. From what I can tell, the majority of the problems MINI had with the first run CM's seem to be fixed. I wouldn't worry about it, there's nothing you can right now anyway. Just enjoy your car when you get it and if you happen to run into any problems, don't hesitate to contact your dealer!
When it comes to new cars you are bound to run into a problem here and there. It'll seem much worse when you look around forums because that's one of the first places people go when they run into any problems. From what I can tell, the majority of the problems MINI had with the first run CM's seem to be fixed. I wouldn't worry about it, there's nothing you can right now anyway. Just enjoy your car when you get it and if you happen to run into any problems, don't hesitate to contact your dealer!
Honestly don't let others scare you. I hate to say it but joining a forum almost always makes you regret your car purchase. Here you find the biggest complaints because its a place to vocalize problems and seek help in diagnosing and resolving those problems. I have over 1,000 miles in a month and the car is great. Easy to mod, very nice and easy clutch and no transmission problems. The engine is great and oil is at a perfect level. I promise you will love the car. IF not, trade it in, take the loss financially and move on. You should be excited right now not upset. Look forward to your new car!
Honestly don't let others scare you. I hate to say it but joining a forum almost always makes you regret your car purchase. Here you find the biggest complaints because its a place to vocalize problems and seek help in diagnosing and resolving those problems. I have over 1,000 miles in a month and the car is great. Easy to mod, very nice and easy clutch and no transmission problems. The engine is great and oil is at a perfect level. I promise you will love the car. IF not, trade it in, take the loss financially and move on. You should be excited right now not upset. Look forward to your new car!
I'm not the most patient person, and now it looks like I won't be able to get the Paceman in before thanksgiving to get the hand controls installed.. So technically I cannot drive it.
But that's ok, my husband is looking forward to driving me around in it. I'm looking forward to working auto headlights and heated seats. (Bad arthritic hips)RavenGirl
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Honestly don't let others scare you. I hate to say it but joining a forum almost always makes you regret your car purchase. Here you find the biggest complaints because its a place to vocalize problems and seek help in diagnosing and resolving those problems. I have over 1,000 miles in a month and the car is great. Easy to mod, very nice and easy clutch and no transmission problems. The engine is great and oil is at a perfect level. I promise you will love the car. IF not, trade it in, take the loss financially and move on. You should be excited right now not upset. Look forward to your new car!
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...and if you read between the lines, a lot of the problems are self inflicted. Get in the habit of checking ALL the fluid levels on a regular basis at least weekly, rotate the tires and change the oil and filter about every 5K (regardless of opposing opinions, oil is cheap in comparison to the alternative), don't let the fuel level get much below a 1/4 tank, wave at other MINI people and don't let other forum people's problems take the MINI grin off your face.
Last edited by Fly'n Brick; Nov 19, 2013 at 09:21 AM.
7 months, about 7,700 miles, not one issue electrical, mechanical, or other.
Wife has had her CM All4 for over a year now, no issues there either.
I hear ya about the wait, though ... I am anything but patient myself. I was lucky enough that the first manual trans model they got at my local dealer was equipped almost exactly as I'd have ordered it; so I looked at it, drove it, bought it on the spot.
Anyway, the wait will be over soon, and you'll be enjoying it before you know it.
Wife has had her CM All4 for over a year now, no issues there either.
I hear ya about the wait, though ... I am anything but patient myself. I was lucky enough that the first manual trans model they got at my local dealer was equipped almost exactly as I'd have ordered it; so I looked at it, drove it, bought it on the spot.
Anyway, the wait will be over soon, and you'll be enjoying it before you know it.
New Paceman S
Traded my 2011 R56S manual with a JCW tuning Kit for a 2013 R61S auto a few weeks ago with plans to add a JCW tuning kit when released.
I must admit I was a little hesitant about making the change because my R56S was a great car with a fun factor of ten, after owning the Paceman for two weeks and taking a road trip, I must say it’s a Swiss army knife of coupes, with more rear space utility, real seating for four if needed, somewhat quieter, smoother ride and still a blast to push hard down twisty roads.
The only thing I didn’t like was moving the power window switches from the center console to the doors, driving with your left-hand and controlling everything on my R56 with your right-hand was more ergonomic. Having to swap hands on the steering wheel just to control the window switches seems like a real step backwards to me.
I must admit I was a little hesitant about making the change because my R56S was a great car with a fun factor of ten, after owning the Paceman for two weeks and taking a road trip, I must say it’s a Swiss army knife of coupes, with more rear space utility, real seating for four if needed, somewhat quieter, smoother ride and still a blast to push hard down twisty roads.
The only thing I didn’t like was moving the power window switches from the center console to the doors, driving with your left-hand and controlling everything on my R56 with your right-hand was more ergonomic. Having to swap hands on the steering wheel just to control the window switches seems like a real step backwards to me.
Last edited by HorseWithNoName; Dec 6, 2013 at 07:46 PM. Reason: Typo
Traded my 2011 R56S manual with a JCW tuning Kit for a 2013 R61S auto a few weeks ago with plans to add a JCW tuning kit when released.
I must admit I was a little hesitant about making the change because my R56S was a great car with a fun factor of ten, after owning the Paceman for two weeks and taking a road trip, I must say it’s a Swiss army knife of coupes, with more rear space utility, real seating for four if needed, somewhat quieter, smoother ride and still a blast to push hard down twisty roads.
The only thing I didn’t like was moving the power window switches from the center console to the doors, driving with your left-hand and controlling everything on my R56 with your right-hand was more ergonomic. Having to swap hands on the steering wheel just to control the window switches seems like a real step backwards to me.
I must admit I was a little hesitant about making the change because my R56S was a great car with a fun factor of ten, after owning the Paceman for two weeks and taking a road trip, I must say it’s a Swiss army knife of coupes, with more rear space utility, real seating for four if needed, somewhat quieter, smoother ride and still a blast to push hard down twisty roads.
The only thing I didn’t like was moving the power window switches from the center console to the doors, driving with your left-hand and controlling everything on my R56 with your right-hand was more ergonomic. Having to swap hands on the steering wheel just to control the window switches seems like a real step backwards to me.
You do get used to the new window switches. My problem is, my wife has a 2012 Countryman with the switches in the old location. When I get in her car, I go fumbling on the door for switches that aren't there. When she gets in mine, she's either turning on my fog lights or turning off my traction control. 


I’m thinking successful brands should pay little attention to the so called auto critics who slam the power window switch's and center speedo layout, they should ask the stakeholders who actually spend money to buy the products.
The same go’s for the removal of the center speedo in the new hardtop, I’m thinking it would have been a better move to remove the column tachometer/info center and go with a clean center look. Pop in a full round hi definition display offering Breitling style chronograph analog and digital adjustable screen layouts with basic heads up standard and navigation/connect software optional.
Last edited by HorseWithNoName; Jan 10, 2014 at 02:20 PM.
Problem with the switches was that the "auto" critics complained about the switches being in the console. Unfortunately these critics are not MINIACS and haven't a clue. It took me a while to get used to the window switches on the door. I came from an R60.
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We have owned most European and all German brands from VW to AMG's, Mini has a unique DNA and I hope they stick with it.
It's hard to believe we will buy our 4th mini in a row this summer when my wife swops out her R56.
Problem with the switches was that the &quot;auto&quot; critics complained about the switches being in the console. Unfortunately these critics are not MINIACS and haven't a clue. It took me a while to get used to the window switches on the door. I came from an R60.
It's hard to believe we will buy our 4th mini in a row this summer when my wife swops out her R56.
Last edited by HorseWithNoName; Jan 10, 2014 at 02:15 PM.
So far my experience has been positive. I did get the homelink mirror installed and I got sat radio installed for free. (MA put my name backwards on the paperwork and I had to go back and re-sign) Now I'm just working out the kinks between my brain and the new hand controls. Gets easier everytime I get behind the wheel. 

The same go’s for the removal of the center speedo in the new hardtop, I’m thinking it would have been a better move to remove the column tachometer/info center and go with a clean center look. Pop in a full round hi definition display offering Breitling style chronograph analog and digital adjustable screen layouts with basic heads up standard and navigation/connect software optional.
So far my experience has been positive. I did get the homelink mirror installed and I got sat radio installed for free. (MA put my name backwards on the paperwork and I had to go back and re-sign) Now I'm just working out the kinks between my brain and the new hand controls. Gets easier everytime I get behind the wheel. 

It's always like Christmas getting a new ride...
Awesome Paceman
Had mine 2 months now and I'm totally thrilled with it, so much better looking than the Countryman and hardly any of them about, so I'm always getting asked about it. No mechanical issues as yet and I couldn't be happier. A unique looking car which stands out in the crowd!! Hope you enjoy your new car as much as I'm enjoying mine! Even here in cold wet England!
Philip
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Basic heads up would be tach and speedo projected on the windshield.
Post up some Paceman pics with your reviews.
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So here's an interesting flip from what usually happens with me and my cars (I usually get bored with them after 18-24 months and start getting the itch for something else). And anybody who's read some of my earlier posts knows that I was ready to drive mine off a cliff before I had the clutch replaced. But anyway, here goes....
My wife just traded her in '12 Countryman All4 for a VW Tiguan w/4motion. She got a new job that about doubles her commute time, so she wanted something a little bigger, a little more comfortable, and with a little more confidence in bad winter weather (not that we'd ever had a problem with the Countryman). Her only other requirements were that it couldn't be too big, and it absolutely could not be a sled. First let me say that I'm pretty impressed with the Tiguan -- very different from the MINI, but a very nice small SUV with obvious German influences, and it met all her requirements. It's smoother and much quieter than the Countryman and my Paceman; it's got plenty of go, but it doesn't have the same 'snap' as the MINI. Nor does it have the same handling qualities, although it's not bad there, either. It's a fun ride, just not 'MINI' fun.
Now here's the rub -- even though my Paceman All4 is noisier and stiffer over the bumpies, as soon as I get back in it after driving the Tiguan I get almost the same sensation as the first time I drove my first MINI hatchback. While the Paceman is no go-kart like the hatch was, it's still a helluva lot more responsive in acceleration, braking and cornering than most other cars on the road, especially other small SUV's and crossovers. I was kind of disappointed in those characteristics coming from a Cooper S hatchback, and let's face it, since getting my Paceman, I've been rather critical of MINI as a whole and their seeming trend at 'normalizing' and becoming less unique and more like every other car on the road. But all it took was driving something else to come back and appreciate that the Paceman is a pretty fun and still a decidedly MINI little car.
My wife just traded her in '12 Countryman All4 for a VW Tiguan w/4motion. She got a new job that about doubles her commute time, so she wanted something a little bigger, a little more comfortable, and with a little more confidence in bad winter weather (not that we'd ever had a problem with the Countryman). Her only other requirements were that it couldn't be too big, and it absolutely could not be a sled. First let me say that I'm pretty impressed with the Tiguan -- very different from the MINI, but a very nice small SUV with obvious German influences, and it met all her requirements. It's smoother and much quieter than the Countryman and my Paceman; it's got plenty of go, but it doesn't have the same 'snap' as the MINI. Nor does it have the same handling qualities, although it's not bad there, either. It's a fun ride, just not 'MINI' fun.
Now here's the rub -- even though my Paceman All4 is noisier and stiffer over the bumpies, as soon as I get back in it after driving the Tiguan I get almost the same sensation as the first time I drove my first MINI hatchback. While the Paceman is no go-kart like the hatch was, it's still a helluva lot more responsive in acceleration, braking and cornering than most other cars on the road, especially other small SUV's and crossovers. I was kind of disappointed in those characteristics coming from a Cooper S hatchback, and let's face it, since getting my Paceman, I've been rather critical of MINI as a whole and their seeming trend at 'normalizing' and becoming less unique and more like every other car on the road. But all it took was driving something else to come back and appreciate that the Paceman is a pretty fun and still a decidedly MINI little car.








