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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 06:02 AM
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How are you breaking in your GP engine?

Just curious if anyone is hitting it hard instead of go slowly.
Engines and lubricants have improved greatly over the years but generations-old advice has not. - See more at:

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
http://www.indiandrives.com/ways-to-...rsial-way.html Here are some of the many links out there that suggest you not go gentle because of reasons below and because this was the old school way of thinking because of technology at that time.

Fact? You decide. Engine Cylinder Walls Piston rings don’t rely on their spring tension to seal against the cylinder bores. Instead, combustion gases work their way between the rings and the piston and force the rings outward. During the first few minutes of engine operation, it’s important that the throttle be opened pretty far at lower rpms to provide this high pressure. Otherwise, the rings won’t burnish the cylinder walls properly, and the engine will have high volumes of blow-by—which means excessive oil consumption and shortened engine life.

I am just curious to who is doing what and not looking to start any arguments. Maybe by this thread you can monitor what each has done and then we can see what if any failure out there were do to how it was broke in.

We can also see who burns oil and who does not.


 

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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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I'll be a guinea pig. While I'm not running the motor up past 5000 rpms, I do tend to give it full throttle for brief periods on occasion, usually in second or third gear. I'm also doing plenty of heel-toe rev-matching on downs (more out of habit since I'm a road racer).

I've done this in the past with BMW engines without incident.

GP mileage to date: 80.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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Very carefully !! Almost 200 miles, I will change the oil at 1000 miles then again at 5000.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by steggar
Very carefully !! Almost 200 miles, I will change the oil at 1000 miles then again at 5000.
Can you elaborate?

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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Can you elaborate?

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3000 rpm Max., easy on the brakes, and don't let the engine labor. Will keep to this for the first 500 miles then go to 4000rpm for another 500 miles. Change the oil, then over the next 1000 miles bring it up to speed, after that let's motor !!
 
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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It will be interesting to see if how you break in your GP's engine has any influence on any issues that may arise. I truly wish and hope all of you have good luck.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Braminator
It will be interesting to see if how you break in your GP's engine has any influence on any issues that may arise. I truly wish and hope all of you have good luck.
I have 2 vehicles which I purchased new:

2000 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 v6 s/c with fuel management upgrade and water/meth injection. Broke it in with dino oil running it wot to 4500 rpms in 2nd and 3rd with a lot of engine braking (redline is 5.5k). Changed oil and filter at 400 miles to Mobil 1 5/30. Changed oil and filter again at 3000 mi.

2005 Toyota Sienna 3.3 v6 - babied it until 800 miles. Changed the filter and oil to Mobil 1 5/30. Changed again at 3000 mi.

I only did city driving for both vehicles during the "break in" period.

I put about 6000 miles on my truck in a year, so I do the oil change once a year. I only use oem Toyota oil filters either made in Japan or Malaysia. I do the oil and filter change 2x a year for the Sienna.

My Tacoma burns less than a fourth qt. of oil a year. The Sienna burns about 1.5 quarts of oil a year. Therefore, I'm adding about 1/4 qt. every 2 mo. My Tacoma has 72,000 mi. and the Sienna 80,000.

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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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I'm keeping mine under 4k rpm, and making sure the engine is warmed up before driving, and letting it idle down and get fresh oil through the turbo before I shut it off. But I am putting some boost and load to it here and there, making sure to vary the RPMS.

I've heard the theories on the running it hard before and can't say their wrong, but can't say their right either.

I will change the oil about 1200 miles, then every 5k after.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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I can volunteer to provide GP2 break-in service for anyone who needs it

Agree with performing a break-in oil change at 1200 miles. I've done this with all new MINIs and BMWs. It was once required on all ///M cars.

Congrats to the new GP2 owners, you all have excellent taste
 
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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Up to 260 miles this morning. Starting to get a little firmer on the brakes now. When I get to 400 I'll change the engine and gear oils as well as the brake fluid to SRF. The GP hits the track next weekend!
 
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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70 miles so far.

Let motor reach operating temperature.

Then drive, varying the RPM, and not worrying so much about peak RPM but still not ripping through the gears or making any real effort to reach redline.

Honestly though I don't believe it makes that much difference.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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Up to 800 miles now. Replaced engine and gear oil as well as brake fluid with SRF. Brakes are fully bedded as well. Very much enjoying how the GP pulls hard all the way up to about 90.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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GP pulls hard all the way up to about 90.
Does it drop off at 90?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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Yeah, it falls off a bit around 90. The torque curve is pretty good IMO. You really don't need to spin it up much past 5000 RPMs to get it to really go.

I'm still loving the car but still do shake my head at the lack of keyless start and cruise control. If they left out the seat heaters, I'd be less perplexed.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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The Recaros and built only with the heated seats in them (the ones MINI uses). So I don't see why MINI would change the seat to remove that just for one limited production model.

I do however think they should still have at least cruise control. Not having it gets old very quickly.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 06:47 AM
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So who is past the break in period and now driving it like you stole it?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Just drive it! Break it in like you drive it, just don't flog.

First to second at high rpm is really fantastic, whole car squats and goes. Very different feeling than a short shift. GP feels much stronger than a JCW, not sure if that is due to weight or motor.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 03:12 AM
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Past 500 yesterday and took the back roads home, what fun it is. Nothing over 5k but man does it pull. I can't even explain the difference between the GP, my former Clubman S and my wifes JCW Roadster.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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1000 miles in. Driving it like I stole it.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Go Tim Go!!!
 
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Originally Posted by TimB
Yeah, it falls off a bit around 90. The torque curve is pretty good IMO. You really don't need to spin it up much past 5000 RPMs to get it to really go.

I'm still loving the car but still do shake my head at the lack of keyless start and cruise control. If they left out the seat heaters, I'd be less perplexed.
Ditto X2 I remember reading a motoring file article and Gabriel said all US cars would have the Mutlifunction steering wheel!!!
 

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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Up to 950 miles, took it in yesterday and had the tires changed to the Continental run flats - not the ideal choice, but better than the Kuhmo's, runs a lot smoother. I also had them do the first oil change, now ready to explore the 4000 - 4500 rpm rev band for a few hundred miles. Loving every mile, seems so much more fun than my Clubman JCW.
 
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aggressively.....
 
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
I'm keeping mine under 4k rpm, and making sure the engine is warmed up before driving, and letting it idle down and get fresh oil through the turbo before I shut it off. But I am putting some boost and load to it here and there, making sure to vary the RPMS.

I've heard the theories on the running it hard before and can't say their wrong, but can't say their right either.

I will change the oil about 1200 miles, then every 5k after.
Did the same here with a JCW. But seriously, its impossible to strictly keep it below 4k rpm. Anybody who says during the breakin period they never went above 4k is not telling the truth. I am sure I had a full redline pull or two or three in the first 1000 miles.
 
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