R50/53 Death Rattle?
Death Rattle?
Hey guys i just picked up my 2005 r53. I have test driven it off the lot, motoring around, no noise, get back to the dealer with a rattle coming from the engine bay, couldnt figure what it was although it was RPM dependent. Turn the engine off, then turn it back on. it was fine. no noise at all. test drove it again, nothing. I buy it thinking something just hasnt moved in a bit and got a good deal. i drive it to my parents hosue to drop off my other car. nothing. drive from my parents house to mine. i get it again i can only hear it when i arrive at my destinationin side and outside of the car. Its never on startup and made sure it was warm before moving anywhere. didnt get it this morning either.....
i can try to take a video of the next time it happens, but i feel like its a tensioner wether its the CAM or the belt that needs a little loving. any insight would be great
i can try to take a video of the next time it happens, but i feel like its a tensioner wether its the CAM or the belt that needs a little loving. any insight would be great
i can try to take a video of the next time it happens, but i feel like its a tensioner wether its the CAM or the belt that needs a little loving. any insight would be great
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Most likely the timing chain tensioner piston, it works off of oil pressure, could be early signs of it getting ready to fail, or could have simply had a slight pocket of air or debrit in the oil passage.
Over time they develope a slight lip at the end of it's throw, could have simply sat for a while & got a little stuck, the sound is very much like there is a bag of gravel in your valve train, good thing is, if it is this, it's a fairly simple fix.
Good Luck.
Over time they develope a slight lip at the end of it's throw, could have simply sat for a while & got a little stuck, the sound is very much like there is a bag of gravel in your valve train, good thing is, if it is this, it's a fairly simple fix.
Good Luck.
Most likely the timing chain tensioner piston, it works off of oil pressure, could be early signs of it getting ready to fail, or could have simply had a slight pocket of air or debrit in the oil passage.
Over time they develope a slight lip at the end of it's throw, could have simply sat for a while & got a little stuck, the sound is very much like there is a bag of gravel in your valve train, good thing is, if it is this, it's a fairly simple fix.
Good Luck.
Over time they develope a slight lip at the end of it's throw, could have simply sat for a while & got a little stuck, the sound is very much like there is a bag of gravel in your valve train, good thing is, if it is this, it's a fairly simple fix.
Good Luck.
yeah i figured as much, i do have a 30 day warrantry from the dealer and a 3 year 360000 mile bumper to bumper, its jsut wierd thats its not all the time, and i did get to wave at my first fellow mini owner this morning
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Well I have a bit of an update. It seems as if when I just throw it in neutral coming to a stop at about 2500 rpms it seems to happen. But if I ease the rpms down I don't get it....
I have nothing useful to add to this thread except I want that 360K warranty. So you have no worries my friend, motor on. 
My serious advise is if you have a warranty drive the crap out of it really hard and see if something breaks. If it doesn't, life is good. If it does, make them fix it.

My serious advise is if you have a warranty drive the crap out of it really hard and see if something breaks. If it doesn't, life is good. If it does, make them fix it.
My serious advise is if you have a warranty drive the crap out of it really hard and see if something breaks. If it doesn't, life is good. If it does, make them fix it.
Why would you take that kind of risk instead of getting it fixed? He could risk them claiming he was at fault for some unknown reason and then he has to pay for the repair himself. Just get your MINI to the dealer if you are unsure and it is under warranty. Why turn a wrench or second guess yourself, when it can be on their dime?
My experience with dealers is "cannot replicate" when you bring the car in and describe a problem. So if there is an issue, it has to be right there in front of them. How is it his fault, he just bought the thing and drove it?
I still say it's the chain tensior, did you buy it from a Mini dealer, or other?
If you bought it from a Mini dealer, just go in and speak to them, this is a common problem & they shouldn't have a problem fixing it at all.
If you bought it from a Mini dealer, just go in and speak to them, this is a common problem & they shouldn't have a problem fixing it at all.
here is a link on how to replace the timing chain tensioner
http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...ation-r50-r53/
If noise is coming from top of passenger side then its probably tensioner
If noise is from bottom of driver side then its probably supercharger/water pump related
If noise is from the passenger side in general it could be something with the serpentine belt
If its not any of those then you could have a bigger problem (camshaft, timing chain, ...)
http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...ation-r50-r53/
If noise is coming from top of passenger side then its probably tensioner
If noise is from bottom of driver side then its probably supercharger/water pump related
If noise is from the passenger side in general it could be something with the serpentine belt
If its not any of those then you could have a bigger problem (camshaft, timing chain, ...)
Welcome, Saltysalt! Concur that you should take it back to where you purchased it, let them hear it, have them diagnose and fix it. If they can't, then tell them, since you have their 30 day warranty, that you will take it to a MINI dealer, have them diagnose and fix it and send them the bill. BTW, how many miiles on the car? Do you have any service records and location/s where it was previously serviced?
i bought it froma VW dealer, and the salesman actually heard it the first time when i test drove it, neither of us knew what it was, stopped the engine, restarted it and it was gone... bought the car knowing i would havea warranty and this problem would be fixed some way, i have to bring it back to them for an inspection sticker anyways so ill ba able to call them to have them order the part for when i go in









