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Suspension Spring/shock options with wider wheels/tires?

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Spring/shock options with wider wheels/tires?

I'd like to close up the wheel gap and maybe improve on the base damping (particularly, I'd like a little less of the bouncy) on my R55, however I'm currently running the max tire setup (235s on 7.5" rims) and there's little to no room for spacers, or between the tire and the stock struts, so my options seem to be limited.

I'd prefer not to have to pull the rear end apart just to adjust the damping, so Koni yellows are out. The PSS10s sound like a no-compromise approach, but they require 5mm spacers to fit with the stock wheels, so there's little chance they'll work for me.

Are there any coilover options that keep all the workings above the tire line? Or other shocks that could be mated with, say, the TSW springs that would be likely to fit?

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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How much do you want to spend?

I have the AST 5100 that is very compact. Not sure if they will fit but you can give terry at Vorshlag a call.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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When you say 'very compact', it's the front strut profile that's really of interest to me; in particular, is the collar assembly above or beside the tire?

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DrZ
When you say 'very compact', it's the front strut profile that's really of interest to me; in particular, is the collar assembly above or beside the tire?

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You can see some pictures of it at the Vorshlag.com website and as I suggested have a chat with terry, the owner.

Just note, these are inverted monotube racing coils so they are pricey.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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At this point, I've seen a lot of pictures of coilover kits. What I'm not seeing is anything that gives me a solid idea of the relative location of the collar vs. the tire, or the diameter of the shock body vs. the stock shocks.

Cost is not a major concern, but reliability and the nuisance factor associated with regular maintenance would be, so e.g. regular replacement of bearings, etc. would be a big turn-off.

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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DrZ
At this point, I've seen a lot of pictures of coilover kits. What I'm not seeing is anything that gives me a solid idea of the relative location of the collar vs. the tire, or the diameter of the shock body vs. the stock shocks.

Cost is not a major concern, but reliability and the nuisance factor associated with regular maintenance would be, so e.g. regular replacement of bearings, etc. would be a big turn-off.

= Mike
Otherwise, you can get someone to build some custom coils for you.

Or you may need to consider changing your configuration.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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I have yet to see a coilover that allows the inner struf clearance of the OEM design. We had the same problem on our porsche
 
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Here's a shot of the current situation... it looks to me like many of the coilovers would actually have the collar above the tire level, so I'm guessing the "needs spacer" requirement must have more to do with the diameter of the shock body itself. You can see the OE strut is actually indented around the wheel area (though the indentation actually stops too soon for the tire...).

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