R127 5 Star Double Spoke wheels or NM Eng RSe07 wheels?

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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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R127 5 Star Double Spoke wheels or NM Eng RSe07 wheels?

I'm getting my CMSA4 this week...I really wanted the sport package and the 18" 5 star double spoke wheels in anthracite, but there was nothing out there the way I wanted it, and due to time constraints, had to take what I can get. My car will have the 17" 5 star double spokes in black with A/S tires, which I'll use for 3 seasons, and want to get a set of 18's for the summer season. Question is, do I get the R127's, or the RSe07's? On the plus side for the NM's, I can get the RSe07's a LOT cheaper than the R127's, and I'll bet they are at least 5-6 lbs lighter on each corner. But I like the look of the R127's much more. Plus with the Light White color I am getting, would much prefer an anthracite color wheel over black, but i'll deal..

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Also, as much as I would love to have 19's, the roads here will destroy them, so unfortunately 19" wheels are not an option for me...

This is what NYC roads did to me last year...and this was with 17's...

 

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:48 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 05:47 AM
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^ I think I really need to see the RSe07's on a Countryman to decide though...I see their stock pic on a Hardtop with them, but it's hard to compare that to how it would look on a Countryman.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:52 AM
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That NM wheel is for the small MINI Coopers with a 4x100 lug bolt pattern, they do not fit the CM which has a 5x120 pattern.

NM's wheel for the CM is 19" and a different design.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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The above stock photo shows a 4 lug wheel. The RSe07 AND RSe14 are both available as a 5 lug wheel for the R60. The RSe12, which is the 4 lug version of the RSe14, will fit the other MINI models.

Surely you don't think I'm THAT stupid to not know the difference between a 4 and 5 lug wheel and what cars can use what, especially in the images above of the R127 clearly showing a 5 lug and the RSe07's showing a 4 lug...

Originally Posted by Outmotoring.com
The NM RSe07 is a wheel with unmatched quality, perfectly spec-ed for your Mini. With its design adapted from the European touring challenge cars and weighing just a mere 18.5 Lbs., the RSe07 will enhance your motoring experience cosmetically as well as performance by reducing the rotational mass or unsprung weight.

Specification:

Size: 18x7.5
Offset: +45 mm
PCD: 4-100mm (For gen1 and gen2 MINI; 5x120 for R60 Countryman)
Bore: 56.1mm
Lug Opening: 14mm Conical Seat

RSe07 is OEM TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) compatible but NOT included.

RSe07 utilizes OEM Mini or JCW center cap as well as mounting lug bolts, which are not included with the wheel.

Notes:

OEM Part #:
'MINI' Center Cap: 36131171069
'JCW' Center Cap: 36136778917

Part # Color Each
NM.880701S Silver $279.95
NM.880701B Black $279.95
NM.880701G Gun Metal $279.95
http://www.outmotoring.com/nm-engine...-18-wheel.html
 

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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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http://www.rotawheels.com/wheel.php?id=45

Had these on my WRX in bronze....so sick
 
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Surely you don't think I'm THAT stupid to not know the difference between a 4 and 5 lug wheel and what cars can use what, especially in the images above of the R127 clearly showing a 5 lug and the RSe07's showing a 4 lug...
Oops, sorry, I was just trying to help. I didn't know that they also offer it in a 5-lug version, I didn't see it on their website anywhere.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MotoGreg
Oops, sorry, I was just trying to help. I didn't know that they also offer it in a 5-lug version, I didn't see it on their website anywhere.
No worries....if you go to NM-Eng's site and specify which model you're looking for parts for, it will show the 07 as being compatible with the R60.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bakerbrdz
http://www.rotawheels.com/wheel.php?id=45

Had these on my WRX in bronze....so sick
They don't appear to have any correct sizing for the R60 application...
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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I much prefer the NM wheel you posted. I don't like two-town wheels as I think the machined edge makes the wheel look functionally smaller. It makes an 18 look like a 17 to my eye.

The little laser-etched "NM" is tight, too. I vote NM all the way between these choices.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Out of the two I also like the NM. The dealers around here must push the OEM 18" R127 wheel because just about every time I see a CM on the road it has those wheels. I like the R127 but I wouldn't want it just to be different. And like Hujan said, when the spokes extend all the way out to the edge of the rim (like they do on the RSe07) instead of stopping short and then having a lip, it visually makes the wheel look larger.

I entered the car info for the R60 on their website, and the RSe07 wheel comes up. However, the specs read this....

Specification:
Size: 18x7.5
Offset: +45 mm
PCD: 4-100mm
Bore: 56.1mm
Lug Opening: 14mm Conical Seat


Those aren't the specs for the R60. So something is wrong on their website. Either they do have a version for the R60, and mistakenly listed the specs for the hardtop. Or, it doesn't fit the R60, and it mistakenly comes up in the search when it shouldn't. Maybe I'll email them and see what the real story is.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MotoGreg
Out of the two I also like the NM. The dealers around here must push the OEM 18" R127 wheel because just about every time I see a CM on the road it has those wheels. I like the R127 but I wouldn't want it just to be different. And like Hujan said, when the spokes extend all the way out to the edge of the rim (like they do on the RSe07) instead of stopping short and then having a lip, it visually makes the wheel look larger.

I entered the car info for the R60 on their website, and the RSe07 wheel comes up. However, the specs read this....

Specification:
Size: 18x7.5
Offset: +45 mm
PCD: 4-100mm
Bore: 56.1mm
Lug Opening: 14mm Conical Seat


Those aren't the specs for the R60. So something is wrong on their website. Either they do have a version for the R60, and mistakenly listed the specs for the hardtop. Or, it doesn't fit the R60, and it mistakenly comes up in the search when it shouldn't. Maybe I'll email them and see what the real story is.
I just hung up with NM-Eng...I'll have to apologize to you this time, because you were right in your response in the other thread about not always believing what you hear/see! I guess Outmotoring's website is also wrong. I could have sworn they told me the RSe07's were available on the CM but they told me right now it's only a 4 lug. They are considering a 5 lug version, but not yet. Their site specified it to be available for the R60 too, but after digging deeper into it with them, confirmed it's not an option for the R60 right now, and they removed it off their site as an option for the R60. I guess it's either the R127's, or if I'm stoopid drunk, I may consider ordering the 19" RSe14's and completely overlooking the fact that it's going to be a nightmare on these rough NY roads. Oh well.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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You must have called them at the same time as I just emailed them! Here is the email I just got...

Hi Greg,

Sorry, that was an error on our site. We currently do not have the application yet, but hopefully we will before the end of the year.

Thanks,
Jerry T
NM Eng.

On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Greg wrote:
When I enter the car info for the R60 Countryman it gives me a couple wheel choices, and one of them is the RSe07. However, the specs listed are for the MINI hartop with a 4x100 PCD. Do you have a version of the RSe07 for the Countryman with a 5x120 PCD as well?




Do you like the TSW Interlagos from the other thread? If you want 18s those would be a great option; lightweight, good looking, and reasonably priced. On that chart that you posted, the size (18x8+35) looks good, the only thing to find out is if the centerbore is large enough... it needs to be 72.56mm or larger.

If you like those, here is the fitment shown below. The 8.5" wheel with 42 offset is what I have, and it fits fine even with the lowering springs. As you can see, the 8" wheel with 35 offset would leave you much more clearance on the inside, and the outer face of the wheel would only move out a half a millimeter, which is basically nothing.

 

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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Yes, I literally hung up with them minutes before I sent the reply above...
 
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