1st Gen Countryman (R60) Talk (2010-2015) R60 Countryman Discussions

R60 Winter/snow tires

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 08:29 AM
  #1  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Winter/snow tires

So it's that time of year and after hubby went to the tire shop I have to decide on tires for the winter.

I have been offered two options. Let me know if there are more, but in Canada tire guy says there are two choices.

I am using run flast with the original rims, happy with them, no complaints.

SO options are

Michelin regular tires for $860. Higher profile. If I get a flat mini wouldn't tow me and I would have no spare.

Pirelli 50tozerorun flats for $1120. Rougher ride and rims could get dinged with winter driving, but I would be able to drive if I broke down.

Any thoughts. The money isn't a massive issue. Just looking for safe and any alternatives.
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 08:59 AM
  #2  
dannyhavok's Avatar
dannyhavok
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,334
Likes: 4
From: Vancouver Island, Canada
Well, the fact that your tire guy says there are only two choices is a little odd. There are countless choices. Personally I would recommend talking to Alex at TireRack.com, he's the tire guru and very helpful.

I live in Canada as well. For my summer tires, ordering from TireRack and paying shipping, duty and customs, then paying to have them mounted and balanced was STILL around $300 cheaper than buying them locally and having them mounted.
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 09:18 AM
  #3  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by dannyhavok
Well, the fact that your tire guy says there are only two choices is a little odd. There are countless choices. Personally I would recommend talking to Alex at TireRack.com, he's the tire guru and very helpful.

I live in Canada as well. For my summer tires, ordering from TireRack and paying shipping, duty and customs, then paying to have them mounted and balanced was STILL around $300 cheaper than buying them locally and having them mounted.

Thanks Danny that is very illuminating. I knew someone would know more!

I have a $900 credit with my tire guy, so I am likley to go with him. BUt as I see on your link there are quite few more choices I will be calling him to have a little chat. Wow on those prices.
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 06:32 PM
  #4  
BradfromOntario's Avatar
BradfromOntario
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, ON
What size are you getting? I'm going 16" rims with 205/60R16 tires. Lots of choice in this size. Get a small compressor that runs from the accessory outlet and a can of tire sealer and you should be good. Supposedly there is a spot under the passenger seat to store the compressor, but I couldn't see it on ours.
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 07:09 PM
  #5  
minipursuit's Avatar
minipursuit
Neutral
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
a silly question

if the car has AWD and the tires are all season, why would you need to buy snow tires?
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 07:40 PM
  #6  
kgelner's Avatar
kgelner
4th Gear
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
Go to:

http://www.tirerack.com

And choose the Countryman in the dropdown, then you can see a list of all the tires that will work... you can even tell it only run flats, or only non-runflats... it gives you a good idea of the range of options and there are usually a few reviews.
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2011 | 11:54 PM
  #7  
dsleedesign's Avatar
dsleedesign
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
For the CM All4 there are very few options. I upped my tires to 215 size from 205.
I bought the michelin Primacy MX4.... GREAT tires and much nicer ride.

In the states we get free roadside assistance from Michiechlin for first 3 years.

As well you can buy Slime Kit to fix simple flats.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 06:40 AM
  #8  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by BradfromOntario
What size are you getting? I'm going 16" rims with 205/60R16 tires. Lots of choice in this size. Get a small compressor that runs from the accessory outlet and a can of tire sealer and you should be good. Supposedly there is a spot under the passenger seat to store the compressor, but I couldn't see it on ours.


I will use the original rims and just switch out the tires. I leased the car so don't really want to buy a second set of rims.


There is a large space under the drivers seat, also a lot of grease!!!
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 06:45 AM
  #9  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by minipursuit
if the car has AWD and the tires are all season, why would you need to buy snow tires?
Not sure where you live, but here in Quebec we really have winter. I drive huge amounts and in terrible weather through back country roads. Snow tires are softer rubber and stick better to ice, which we get a lot of. For safety and peace of mind winter tires are the only option.

Then there is the law, in Quebec from Dec 15th to April 15th you are legally obliged to have winter tires installed, even on rental cars.

I live at Mont Tremblant and let me tell you the number of accidents we see with SUV's in ditches that have driven from the USA to here is unbelievable. All wheel drive alone will not save you in snow, you need to know how to drive (not the same as summer driving at all) and your car needs to be equipped with the right tires.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 06:49 AM
  #10  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
I think I will go with the Michelins.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 04:13 PM
  #11  
pappatho's Avatar
pappatho
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by minipursuit
if the car has AWD and the tires are all season, why would you need to buy snow tires?
AWD provides no benefit if you are in a panic stop situation in the snow or ice. Snow tires can make a dramatic difference though. AWD actually makes the car stop worse than non AWD due to the added weight. The snow tires will also boost performance for cornering and accelerating versus all season in snow and ice conditions regardless of if you have AWD or not.

If you plan on keeping the car for long enough to go through a set of tires, the real added expense of using winter tires is much less since you would have had to buy tires anyways.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:42 PM
  #12  
Clubman S Turbo's Avatar
Clubman S Turbo
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 435
Likes: 4
From: Baltimore MD Area
I have used Bridgestone Blizzaks now for better than 15 yrs and there is nothing that will touch them in any "all-season" construction. Hands down a decent FWD car with these will pass any AWD vehicle with mediocre 4-season rubber. I have had 8 sets on 7 cars and when the snow arrives, the MINI will be number 8.
 
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 07:34 AM
  #13  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Clubman S Turbo
I have used Bridgestone Blizzaks now for better than 15 yrs and there is nothing that will touch them in any "all-season" construction. Hands down a decent FWD car with these will pass any AWD vehicle with mediocre 4-season rubber. I have had 8 sets on 7 cars and when the snow arrives, the MINI will be number 8.

Blizzaks are what I have used on all my cars until this one. THe blizzaks do not seem to be an option for me.
 
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2011 | 07:59 AM
  #14  
Hodaka's Avatar
Hodaka
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
From: The Kootenays, BC, Canada
Originally Posted by BradfromOntario
Get a small compressor that runs from the accessory outlet and a can of tire sealer and you should be good. Supposedly there is a spot under the passenger seat to store the compressor, but I couldn't see it on ours.
It's under the driver's seat, complete with velcro straps. I have not tried it yet, but I think the Slime kit with the small compressor will fit.
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:27 PM
  #15  
bignose13's Avatar
bignose13
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
From: Panguitch Utah Summer, Kamas Utah Winter
why not ??

Originally Posted by Quebecker
Blizzaks are what I have used on all my cars until this one. THe blizzaks do not seem to be an option for me.
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 12:52 PM
  #16  
Quebecker's Avatar
Quebecker
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
They didn't come up on the tirerack and the Goodyear place I usually buy my tires doesn't have them for the size I want.
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 03:04 PM
  #17  
zone555's Avatar
zone555
1st Gear
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, Canada
My Countryman All4 is on order, but I've done the research for winter tires in advance. Will be going with a 16" steel wheel + Continental Extreme Winter combo:

http://www.simplytire.com/winter/minipdf.pdf
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2011 | 09:04 PM
  #18  
days-like-this's Avatar
days-like-this
4th Gear
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: salt lake city, utah
WS-70 Blizzaks for the 17" wheels are not found in oem 205/55R17, but ARE found for 225/50R17 (listed on tirerack as an Alternate size for that Countryman wheel by the way even though wider) or 215/50R17 if you try to match fairly closely.

225/45R18's are listed for LM-60 Blizzaks and WS-70 Blizzaks for 18" wheels.

So, a few options if you stick with Blizzaks
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 12:03 AM
  #19  
walk0080's Avatar
walk0080
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,800
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by dannyhavok
Well, the fact that your tire guy says there are only two choices is a little odd. There are countless choices. Personally I would recommend talking to Alex at TireRack.com, he's the tire guru and very helpful.

I live in Canada as well. For my summer tires, ordering from TireRack and paying shipping, duty and customs, then paying to have them mounted and balanced was STILL around $300 cheaper than buying them locally and having them mounted.
Same here - $300 cheaper for a winter wheel/tire set at Tire Rack than my usual local tire guy who has great prices for a Canadian shop. I had them shipped to the border. Paid 1/2 shipping and no duties at the border (I had to pay HST of course).

The Blizzaks and similar tires are great for places that get heavy snow or ice IMO... but for a place like Toronto, I prefer a "performance" style winter tire as it is mostly cold and wet/dry over here.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 12:04 AM
  #20  
walk0080's Avatar
walk0080
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,800
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by minipursuit
if the car has AWD and the tires are all season, why would you need to buy snow tires?
Because all-seasons are not particularly good at doing much of anything, particular winter driving...

Also AWD just gets you going... doesn't help you stop better.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:28 AM
  #21  
blue0506's Avatar
blue0506
1st Gear
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 32
Likes: 1
From: Northern NJ
I was looking at picking up a winter wheel setup from tirerack, but I was wondering if the TPMS sensors are necessary for the wheels. Obviously they'd be nice to have but I wanted to get everyones take on the necessity of it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 11:39 AM
  #22  
walk0080's Avatar
walk0080
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,800
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by blue0506
I was looking at picking up a winter wheel setup from tirerack, but I was wondering if the TPMS sensors are necessary for the wheels. Obviously they'd be nice to have but I wanted to get everyones take on the necessity of it.
For US cars you will get TPMS warnings without the sensors installed.

For Canadian cars you don't need the expensive wheel weights as we rely on the ABS sensors.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:56 PM
  #23  
Bilbo-Baggins's Avatar
Bilbo-Baggins
6th Gear
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,284
Likes: 1
From: Middle Earth
Another great winter tire comes from Finland, made by Nokian http://www.nokiantires.com/
World's fastest tire on ice!

Available from local dealers or the internet.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 08:08 PM
  #24  
OneTraveler's Avatar
OneTraveler
2nd Gear
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by zone555
My Countryman All4 is on order, but I've done the research for winter tires in advance. Will be going with a 16" steel wheel
I also have the All4 version, on tirerack.com when the non-ALL4 vehicle is selected I can chose winter packages of 16" or 17" wheels...when I select the Countryman S ALL4, I can only choose a 17" package.

Anyone know of something preventing the 16" rim on an ALL4?

Thanks!

<winter is coming...spent time scraping all this week> ugh.
 
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 09:44 PM
  #25  
mrk5n's Avatar
mrk5n
3rd Gear
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: Evesham, NJ
The 16" rim is probably too small for the S Countryman's brakes.. the heavier and faster the Mini, the bigger the brakes are
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:15 AM.