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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Another super cool product from M7

M7/RPS "SEGMENTED" FLYWHEELS

The World's First of its Kind!!
Where better engineering produces better products.

M7 announces a new line of superior billet flywheels. These flywheels utilize RPS's patent pending "segmented" heat shield system. Traditional heat shields warp because of the uneven heat produced by a slipping clutch. Just like a car going around in a circle, the outside tires go faster than the inside tires, the clutch disc slides faster around the outside of the flywheel than it does around the inside. The faster moving outside gets hotter than the inside. Because metal expands more the hotter it gets, the outside of the heat shield expands more than the inside. Traditional heat shields are made of one piece metal rings, so when the outside expands more than the inside, the only thing the shield can do is warp. The RPS Segmented heat shields are not connected so they can expand and contract without warping. A warped heat shield causes the clutch to slip, which causes more heat and more warpage.

RPS Billet Flywheels are dynamically balanced after CNC machining. Other flywheel manufactures assume that since they CNC their flywheels it comes off the machine fully balanced. This would be true assuming the density of the aluminum is constant throughout the part. Unfortunately even the best billet material is not evenly dense throughout and the starter ring gears are never perfect.

RPS Billet Flywheels are also fully rebuildable for the life of the car.
Aircraft quality billet aluminum

Weight: 15lbs

Dynamically balanced

Patent pending

Segmented heat shields

Fully rebuildable for life

Anodized and laser engraved

price: $699.00

for purchase call M7 at 562-712-3270


 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Now THAT is what I am talking about.

I will be using that down the road to strengthen my drivetrain for sure!

Keep the products comming...
 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Peter,
Can you explain more about the fully rebuildable aspect of this? Im not familliar with flywheel failures, except in extreme full bore drag racing apps. Thanks!

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Peter,

Looks like a great product.
Any comment on whether the noise is any better or worse than other light weight flywheels available for the MINI?
Thanks.
 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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RPS clutches are the ****. Rob really knows his stuff and definately builds some of the best clutches in the U.S. His carbon-carbon twin disk clutches can hold really high-hp and feel like stock.
 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Peter, why don't you get off your *** and introduce some new products already?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Yes I did look look around for something special when I was contemplating the flywheel and clutch combo.
This is by far the best built highest quality flywheel I found.

The weight was held at 15lbs as I knew that very few of these units would end up in a track dedicate mini Cooper.
The stock unit weigs in at a porky 28lbs which gives you great every day driveability but really sucks when you need
fast engine response. Our unit at half the weight gives superb engine response without the drawbacks of the
12lbs and less units.

The gearbox rattle is a tuff one, as the stock dualmass (rubber/steel) unit acts as a harmonic damper, filtering
out all the mechanical noises ( NVH) from the gear box. Our unit will rattle a little bit but that's the nature of the beast.

The part that can be rebuilt are the "SEGMENTS", a fly wheel will ultimately fail/wear out and you would toss it.
Our unit will allow us to replace the segments and voila a new fly wheel.

As for the clutch expect an announcement next week

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Dude........ I got more, but feel kinda funny showing more then one product a day
 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Peter,
That is beautiful flywheel. Who can install it in SoCal. Will performance data be available? Will you be doing a LSD?

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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>>Peter,
>> That is beautiful flywheel. Who can install it in SoCal. Will performance data be available? Will you be doing a LSD?

Call me and I will give you details about a great shop to get it installed....

Not much more data then has been shown is available, but I will try to do some comparables between stock and
the new flywheel. LSD I would recomend quaife.......

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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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Its so pretty it brings a tear to my eye...

Do these fit the cooper as well?
 
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Thanks Peter. I'll give you a call tomorrow. QuaifeUSA is just down the freeway from me!!!
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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I can't believe M7 has released a new product, and we don't have one of the many famous responses. I just feel it isn't the same, so I will say it.

"This looks so Rice!"

Holy Cow, Peter. You are killing us all. Now let's see what I can I sell to buy some of this stuff. Hmmm.......
 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:55 AM
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what does "billet" mean? and I want a technical answer that would satisfy the Aluminum Association of America
 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:21 AM
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Peter,
So when you replace the segments, the flywheel becomes unbalanced?


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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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OK, I guess I'll be the one to do it.

The explanation of the outside of the flywheel going faster
and therefore getting hotter is incorrect since the outside
of the entire assembly is going faster so the relative speed
difference between the clutch face and the clutch friction
disk and the clutch pressure plate is the thing that makes the
heat, and the relative speed is IDENTICAL on the inner radius
and the outer radius.

Still nice product though.

Peter, you need to stay far far away from a physics class
explanation of your products. Thay have been universally incorrect.

Sorry to bring water to the bonfire, but people don't like to be
fooled by big0word science.

Again, this looks like a nice product, and Peter is the only one
using real-sounding science to sell his high-build-quality
products, so he gets the comments and questions.
 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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Hhhmmm, you have me puzzled Tippy.
To me, Peter's science sounds more convincing than yours.
We're talking about speed difference during slippage, not during full connection.
The motion we are talking about is coaxial rotational motion of two faces of equal diameter (at least in terms of where they are touching), with one face moving faster than the other. If one side moves faster than the other by 50%, then let's say one face does two full revolutions during the same time the other does one full revolution. The relative motion of one face to the other is one revolution per unit time. During this unit time, a spot on the outer rim of the contact area moves across a distance on the other face of 2 pi r (one full revolution at that radius). Lets say the inner rim is located at half the radius of the outer rim, and a spot n the inner rim therefore also moves for one full revolution at half the radius of the outer one, across a distance on the other face of 2 pi r/2, or just pi r, or exactly half the distance that the spot on the outer rim moves across.
In other words the relative speed - and you correctly say that is what matters - is not identical.

 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Billet = Large chunk of aluminum that the body of flywheel is made of

As the segments get replaced the fly wheel get's dynamicaly balanced again.

Thank's MG-BGT you are right.

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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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>>As the segments get replaced the fly wheel get's dynamicaly balanced again.

By whom, for how much and for how long. Thanks!

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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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"Billet = Large chunk of aluminum that the body of flywheel is made of "

so to substute the above ~equality:

"RPS large chunk of aluminum Flywheels are also fully rebuildable for the life of the car.
Aircraft quality large chunk of aluminum "


I love technical talk


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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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Maybe I need to have more coffee before posting this early in the morning.

Both MG-BGT and Peter are correct about the speeds.

I was 100% wrong.

See, that wasn't so tough was it?

 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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>>I was 100% wrong.

LOL, it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong. Don't worry man, it happens to the best of us...

Peter, is there a certain clutch disk to go with this, or is that on the way...
 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Maybe I need to have more coffee before posting this early in the morning.

Both MG-BGT and Peter are correct about the speeds.

I was 100% wrong.

See, that wasn't so tough was it?

 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Thank's Trippy....

Yes I'm expecting a new clutch to compliment the flywheel this week. I will post more info and some images
when I receive the items...

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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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'My compliments to the flywheel, said the clutch!
Nice segmentation!'

Sorry, couldn't resist!
You've been coming out with lots of really exciting stuff Peter!
Now I just need to get a second loan to be able to get all that!

 



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