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Did you release 2nd gear all the way when traveling at 65 mph? Did you notice the rpms going all the way up past redline?

Is the sound coming from the engine or the gears in the transmission.

 

Sounds like you might have spun something out and might have screwed yo stuff up

 

 

sounds expensive

 

Just clear one thng up for me. Seeing where 2nd is located, how did you hit that gear going 65? What gear were you actually going for?

Jim

 

Your gonna go postal when you get the estimate on repair costs.

 

Sounds like he was going for 4th. And yeah, sounds expensive.

 

 

I did the same stupid thing last weekend. It doesn't sound very healthy, but is still shifting and running fine.

 

Overrevving an engine is very bad. I don't know what the top speed for a Mini is in 2nd but I know in my s2000 it's only around 60. I would imagine you were probably doing at least 1000 RPMs higher than redline. Get it checked out immediately cause it's only going to cause more damage and become more costly.

 

 

next time buy a automatic

 

 

nkatsim,

Over reving usually gives you an engine problem, not really that much to do with the gears. You mentioned 4th gear is the only gear that is not right (or whinning).

This is curious.

PS: You can always blame the wife since it is her car!

 

The DME will no doubt store the over-rev "event" and cause a warranty claim denial. But can that stored info be cleared somehow, allowing him to claim ignorance and "not recall" anything abnormal occurring? Seems to work well for politicians!

 

 

Ouch, a money shift.

Hope the damage isn't too bad.

 

Give the poor guy a break and lets try to help him if we can.

Forget about the stuff stored in the computer. It is very difficult to overwrite and they would notice you tempered with it.

If it is gear whine, is it losing power, like the clutch could be burned out?

 

 

As soon as you force it into a too low a gear, the synchromesh is strained as it overspeeds the gear,
shaft and clutch plate (and the clutch plate can explode at this point).

When you let out the clutch, the pressure plate and engine follow into overspeed.

Since none of it would be covered by warranty (and cause would be obvious to a competent tech, computer or not),
I would find an Independant MINI Expert shop that you can trust to look at it.

 

Following pilotarts suggestion, I would drain the transmission fluid to see what it is telling you. Based on what the fluid looks llike,you may either treat the whine or do something with the transmission.

To treat the whine, I would also suggest changing to a slightly thicker fluid to see if it helps you. I would suggest a full synthetic fluid like Redline D4 or perhaps even Redline MTL. You could always stay with the Mini fluid if you want just to flush out the old stuff. Since this is still only a whine you are concerned about an the car is still driveable, a slightly thicker fluid may be helpful. I have "cured" many whining transmission (but BMW transmisions) using either one of the Redline fluids. If you call Redline, they would suggest D6 to get the same properties as original Mini. Call them to confirm that D4 and MTL is useable to treat the whining problem.

If the transmission is shot, replacing or reconstructing it may be the only real options.

 

RE my above post: In 1967, I was a College Student with a 1959 Volvo PV544 and I went into 1st gear at 50 mph or so. The clutch plate immediately exploded and saved the engine, as it would no longer move in any gear.

AAA towed me to their favorite shop, they said I needed a new transmission at $700+ from an auto wrecking yard. The transmission was sitting, open on the shop floor and I put it through all the gears and could see no damage.

I brought them a new clutch plate and told them to put it back together, it drove fine, but now had that exact "whine" from the transmission.

Next day I traded it and 36 months of $78 payments for a brand new Firebird Convertible with an Automatic, loved the car, but really hated that auto transmission (and car payments ).

 

pilotart,

The 1959 Volvo had a synchromesh tranny? Sorry, I do not know much about cars from the 1950s.

 

^^^^^ Most Manual Shift cars in the '50's were three speed with syncro for second and third only. Idea was that you would usually be stopped when you shifted into first gear.

Volvos (first imported in 1954) all came with four speed and syncromesh on all forward gears, styling was copied from '47 Ford Tudor and was a great car, even had standard equipment seat belts.

Quite a sight to see those Volvo Sedans blowing away the MG's (and Mini's) on the track at Lime Rock.