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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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All season performance tires?

Any ideas? What do you have and how do you like them?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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I am not a fan of all season tires, but depending on were you live and how you drive i could see why you may want a set. I run dedicated Summer max Performace tires, and also dedicated Winter Snows.
You may want to check out the tirerack website and read reviews on some different types of rubber before you purchase. Also speak with Alex at Tirerack, he can give you the best advise on what you need and for your budget
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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I've run Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S in the past. Both are OK if you're looking for a tire that is a jack of all trades and a master of none. If you're not looking for flat-out performance or don't need to get through deep snow, you should be ok.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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I had a set of Avon Tech M550 A/S. They were pretty great tires all around, but lost some snow capability as they wore down. I guess that is true of most tires. They were the best dry/rain weather tire I'd ever had, until I switched to dedicated tri-season all temp, wet dry Nokians.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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I've got Bridgestone Potenzas and I love'm!
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Another fan of the Goodyear F1 AS here. That's what I run as my "winter" tires here - they're excellent in the wet, on cold to warm pavement, and OK in light snow. They're NOT snow tires. They also wear out FAST on hot pavement when pushed hard (like at the track). But in cooler climates and away from the track and not in a lot of snow, they rock.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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I have Firestone - Firehawk GTA02 I, I've had them for a year or so now, and the way i drive well the grip on them is almost gone. they are awesome in the summer and for one winter, now i will need new ones. but it was the best choice to get rid of the runflats. I will get different tires next time for the summer and a set for the winter.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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I have the relatively new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S PLUS non run flats and really like this tire. Check out the reviews at www.tirerack.com Make sure that you look at the PLUS it is a different tire than the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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I have the Goodyear Eagle GT's and honestly I don't think they are very good at all.



Here is the review on TireRack I wrote about them:

"After a lot of research I decided to go with these tires since they were a sporty all-season. I guess my research was not thorough enough. These tires are mediocre at best. In the dry they provide decent grip, but not to the level many reviews claimed. If you read that these tires are superior to summer-only tires, take it with a grain of salt. In my opinion nothing can compare to dedicated summer-only tires. The GT's wet traction is pretty appalling too, especially with standing water. Looking at the treads I would think it'd hydroplaning resistance would be pretty good, but one again I made an incorrect assumption.

Probably the worse thing about this tire though is its tread life. I'll admit, I do a mix of spirited and normal driving, but with a big lean towards average commuting. I don't understand how occasional spirited driving can eat the tread like that and offer such poor grip. At 12,000 miles I'm already lower than 50% tread life, that was worse then the OEM runflats.

The quality of the tires isn't very good either in my opinion. They constantly loose air pressure and I've had them checked for punctures as well as had my rims checked to make sure they weren't bent. I don't know why this tire constantly looses pressure, and no one seems to have a good answer. I used to be a huge fan of Goodyear tires, however the GT's have gave me a negative perception of the company unfortunately.

One thing I am impressed with is the ride comfort and noise over the OEM runflats. On long motorway journeys they are very smooth and very quite. This does help with the long road trips I do from time to time. It allows me to be less fatigued, which is always a good thing.

In short, if you do any spirited driving at all I would avoid these tires."
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Anyone try the new Pirelli PZero Nero All Season. The only issue is they only have 225x45x17. I am currently running 215x45x17.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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I am having good luck with some BFGoodrich Traction T/A all seaasons in 205/50R16. I have about 27,000 miles on them so far and there is still 5/32" of tread left so they should be good for 35,000 - 40,000 miles. Traction is great for the street, wet traction is good, snow traction is not bad for so wide an all season tire(I use 185/65R15 dedicated snow tires if it is going to get nasty).
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Blue Coop/Mini Rose
Anyone try the new Pirelli PZero Nero All Season. The only issue is they only have 225x45x17. I am currently running 215x45x17.
I have the Pirelli P-Zero Nero M&S in 205/55-16. Is that the tire you mean? I prefer the Michelin Pilot Exhalto PE2, but the PE2 is a summer tire. I don't really have much need for an all season tire.
 

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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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the all season is a replacement for the M&S. The center of the tread pattern is a little different.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Today I had our dealer put on some Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grids
195/55-16's. We took Molly in for her 1.5yr. check up, she was not done by the time we needed to pick her up, so we got a 328i Loaner. From the reviews on TireRack they are pretty decent and at $400 shipped I don't think you can beat the price!!
 

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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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I read a few reviews of these elsewhere and they have been getting good reviews. Might have to try them out.

What makes me even more curious is the run-flat option. Maybe they will expand the size they offer and then I could try those. I know the ride is harsher but when I read about them these use the newer 3rd generation run-flat technology and are supposed to be very close the the non-runflat version.

BTW, running Goodyear F1's myself and they have been a good tire. Nothing to complain about. I little scary in hard ice but most tries are anyway. I wouldn't complain to buy them again but I have always been a Michelin tire person so I would mind trying them again.

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I have the relatively new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S PLUS non run flats and really like this tire. Check out the reviews at www.tirerack.com Make sure that you look at the PLUS it is a different tire than the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
 
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RJKimbell
Today I had our dealer put on some Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grids
195/55-16's. We took Molly in for her 1.5yr. check up, she was not done by the time we needed to pick her up, so we got a 328i Loaner. From the reviews on TireRack are pretty decent and at $400 shipped I don't think you can beat the price!!

I also had the G019 on a BMW I had for about a month, and they were excellant in the rain, a bit noisy on the highway but overall a good deal
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Put the Grids to the Test this AM, we had a pretty heavy rain storm on the way to work. 7:20 or so, going over the Glen Jackson Bridge absolutely no cualms what so ever. A few minutes later before I know it we are running through standing water, the 'old' RFs would bog down and become squirly, not the Grids they stayed true and straight, no pulling of the wheel what so ever!! I let Hubby know later on that morning what had happened and he was surprised that we had gone through the puddle without him even noticing.

I've put less than 130miles on them, but so far I'm very impressed and very glad I made this Tire decision!!
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Kuhmo ASX 215/50-16s....love the ride and low noise, damn good grip too. Haven't had em in snow yet, but nice on sloppy rain.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Have Kunho AST's on my 2005 JCW and they work great and at avery good price of 100 installed.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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thanks everyone great info still looking around. I have heard that toyo makes a proxie4 sounds good. anyoen have these?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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In my world this is the dual purpose street/track brake pad. They don't exist either. Seems such things always come with compromise.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=HPAS

#1 Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S = $163/tire
#2 Dunlop SP Sport Signature = $97
#3 Fuzion VRi = no size equivalent
#4 Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid =$98
#5 BFGoodrich Traction T/A H = no size equivalent
#6 Yokohama AVID V4S = no size equivalent
#7 Yokohama AVID H4S = $87
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#8 Kumho Ecsta AST =$77


I went with the Dunlops and am very happy....Hard to justify the high price of the michelins.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HHFD633
thanks everyone great info still looking around. I have heard that toyo makes a proxie4 sounds good. anyoen have these?
I don't have them, but a buddy of mine has them on his 1991 MX-5 and says they are fantastic in the dry and wet. It doesn't snow much where he lives (Tyne and Wear, UK) so he can not comment on the but it does rain a lot. He said they offer a fairly quite and comfortable ride.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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I just got back from the Dragon. I recently put the Goodyear F1 all season tires on the GP and they performed flawlessly. We had one day of rain and I never slipped once. I really think I made the correct choice of tire.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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I'm having a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS installed tomorrow. Did a LOT of research and settled on them. I'll report once I get a feel for them.
 
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