Drivetrain Update on ECU tuning?
Update on ECU tuning?
It's been a while since I scoured this section. I did a little searching and I see it seems that some people are working on a tune for the R56.
Has any results been solidified? Do we actually have answers. All the threads I read were inconclusive and I didn't see any actual results.
Thanks,
Mark
Has any results been solidified? Do we actually have answers. All the threads I read were inconclusive and I didn't see any actual results.
Thanks,
Mark
It's been a while since I scoured this section. I did a little searching and I see it seems that some people are working on a tune for the R56.
Has any results been solidified? Do we actually have answers. All the threads I read were inconclusive and I didn't see any actual results.
Thanks,
Mark
Has any results been solidified? Do we actually have answers. All the threads I read were inconclusive and I didn't see any actual results.
Thanks,
Mark
Great Another thread about Tunes I can't take it anymore some one needs to step up to the plate and release something quick if not I'm done buying performance parts because it almost use less without a tune.
So I pulled the parts off, put the Mini up for sale.
Been self tuning using opensource tools and a Tactrix cable.
I still watch the Mini world, but it is years away from the rest of the world.
I can use the tactrix to read, and talk to the Mini ECU, but there is no reliable tables for it so no tuning...
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Eh? Theres Evotech, GIAC, and UNICHIP? What are you looking for?
What's the pros/cons on the evotech and GIAC? Does anyone know what differences will possilbly be with the one ALTA is working on?
I feel everyone's pain. I was waaay too impatient so last year I installed the JCW Stage I kit.
It was a severe improvement over the stock S but if someone came out with a better setup, I'd gladly write over the JCW ECU programming.
Guess I'm stuck for now with what I've got. To be honest, this is ridiculous, the car is now in it's 3rd model year and no one has come out with any tuning? WTF, in another year, they'll have a 3rd generation and then no one will want to mess with the 2nd generation model.
Mark
It was a severe improvement over the stock S but if someone came out with a better setup, I'd gladly write over the JCW ECU programming.
Guess I'm stuck for now with what I've got. To be honest, this is ridiculous, the car is now in it's 3rd model year and no one has come out with any tuning? WTF, in another year, they'll have a 3rd generation and then no one will want to mess with the 2nd generation model.
Mark
A tune is a tune, regardless of what company, you would need to get a dyno-tune to get the best numbers you can get from a tune. After I get my downpipe from Exhaust Depot, I will be dropping by a unichip dealer who will be dyno-tuning my car, getting the most power I can get within the reliability range.
A tune is a tune, regardless of what company, you would need to get a dyno-tune to get the best numbers you can get from a tune. After I get my downpipe from Exhaust Depot, I will be dropping by a unichip dealer who will be dyno-tuning my car, getting the most power I can get within the reliability range.
so again, what do you think that alta is working on that everyone is so hung up on? and why aren't they into the evo tech or giac etc. ???
A tune is a tune, regardless of what company, you would need to get a dyno-tune to get the best numbers you can get from a tune. After I get my downpipe from Exhaust Depot, I will be dropping by a unichip dealer who will be dyno-tuning my car, getting the most power I can get within the reliability range.
And though you can change fuel tables, timing, etc on a dyno, the majority of tuning is done when the car is in 3rd for 4th gear at WOT which is what most race cars need.
That's why many cars that are dyno tuned have idleing or driveability issues. Tuning via a laptop running around town IMO is even more reliable, especially for a street car. It accounts for idle, driving at 2500 rpms, sudden braking, holeshots, etc, etc.
Mark
I have not heard of Alta working on a tune, do you have any links because this would be new to me. If they are working on a tune, I am sure it is so they can have their own tune which would be higher than others on the market from more a precise and accurate tune. And to live up to the Alta name .
Though I agree that a dyno tune is better than any tune in a can (which are usually on the safe side and at least 20-30HP shy of what a dyno can do) I think that tuning via a laptop is even better since it gives real world usage.
And though you can change fuel tables, timing, etc on a dyno, the majority of tuning is done when the car is in 3rd for 4th gear at WOT which is what most race cars need.
That's why many cars that are dyno tuned have idleing or driveability issues. Tuning via a laptop running around town IMO is even more reliable, especially for a street car. It accounts for idle, driving at 2500 rpms, sudden braking, holeshots, etc, etc.
Mark
And though you can change fuel tables, timing, etc on a dyno, the majority of tuning is done when the car is in 3rd for 4th gear at WOT which is what most race cars need.
That's why many cars that are dyno tuned have idleing or driveability issues. Tuning via a laptop running around town IMO is even more reliable, especially for a street car. It accounts for idle, driving at 2500 rpms, sudden braking, holeshots, etc, etc.
Mark
I will be posting the results to show everyone that any pnp or flash can put out some serious gains. I just never said I was going to get dyno-tuned because there were so many threads started and ended up in the fire.
If you would compare the GTI to the R56, the REVO stg 2 bumps up the hp by 50 and the evotech someone had gotten raised it up by around 30hp, the 20hp difference comes into play with the .4 liter displacement advantage.
I have gotten the unichip because it is the chip that will make my engine tunable since the evotech and giac flashes are too far.
Last edited by richi0207; Mar 23, 2009 at 08:52 PM.
I will be posting the results to show everyone that any pnp or flash can put out some serious gains. I just never said I was going to get dyno-tuned because there were so many threads started and ended up in the fire.
One was a supercharged 306 cu. in. and the other was a stock Miata with a supercharger. The car spent over 3 months at the dyno for the latter car at a cost of over 1200 bucks.
I never did get it tuned right. I had to sell the supercharger separately and then sell the car.
Even the other Miata with the supercharged V8 never did idle correctly. It was great at WOT but the smoothness I expected never did appear.
Hell, even my Mini with the JCW Stage I kit idles erratically sometimes... something I never had happen until I got it tuned.
And that was using Mini's own programming, imagine what would have happened using someone else's?
Mark
The last two cars I had tuned (dyno) were Miatas.
One was a supercharged 306 cu. in. and the other was a stock Miata with a supercharger. The car spent over 3 months at the dyno for the latter car at a cost of over 1200 bucks.
I never did get it tuned right. I had to sell the supercharger separately and then sell the car.
Even the other Miata with the supercharged V8 never did idle correctly. It was great at WOT but the smoothness I expected never did appear.
Hell, even my Mini with the JCW Stage I kit idles erratically sometimes... something I never had happen until I got it tuned.
And that was using Mini's own programming, imagine what would have happened using someone else's?
Mark
One was a supercharged 306 cu. in. and the other was a stock Miata with a supercharger. The car spent over 3 months at the dyno for the latter car at a cost of over 1200 bucks.
I never did get it tuned right. I had to sell the supercharger separately and then sell the car.
Even the other Miata with the supercharged V8 never did idle correctly. It was great at WOT but the smoothness I expected never did appear.
Hell, even my Mini with the JCW Stage I kit idles erratically sometimes... something I never had happen until I got it tuned.
And that was using Mini's own programming, imagine what would have happened using someone else's?
Mark
But yea, to get the tune the right way is costly and long. But tuning is something that should not be half-$#^ed (sorry I couldn't think of any other word lol) It requires precision. 


