R56 ANYBODY EXTRACT THE OIL INSTEAD OF DRAIN?
While there's nothing *hard* about draining the oil via the plug, a good extractor makes it truly a breeze.
1) Hook up extractor to air compressor and wheel it over to car.
2) Remove dipstick and insert extractor tube.
3) Flip switch on extractor and watch it suck the oil into the reservoir
4) Replace dipstick, wheel extractor out of the way and disconnect compressor hose.
And done - no ramps/lift, no wondering whether or not I really need to replace the crush washer on the drain plug, and no laying on the ground reaching under the car - I don't even have to bend over. It literally makes draining the oil almost as easy as checking the oil.
1) Hook up extractor to air compressor and wheel it over to car.
2) Remove dipstick and insert extractor tube.
3) Flip switch on extractor and watch it suck the oil into the reservoir
4) Replace dipstick, wheel extractor out of the way and disconnect compressor hose.
And done - no ramps/lift, no wondering whether or not I really need to replace the crush washer on the drain plug, and no laying on the ground reaching under the car - I don't even have to bend over. It literally makes draining the oil almost as easy as checking the oil.
I concur with ScottRiqui. Extracting the oil is far less hassel than putting the car on ramps, then sliding underneath the sump to remove the drainplug. Since the filter is changed from above, it makes for a single, tidy operation to also change the oil from above. Extractors work well - Mercedes, for one, uses extractors exclusively to change oil in their factory-approved workshops. The only slight disadvantage to using an extractor is that it takes somewhat more time to remove the used oil from the sump compared to draining it, and the extractor will leave a small amount of used oil in the sump, removing perhaps 98% instead of 100%. This is insignificant, IMHO. The ease and tidiness of an extractor change encourages you to renew oil often. A good thing, in my view.
Used to use one on the Mini and BMWs and loved it, great for easy intermediary more frequent oil changes.
Was just thinking about it recently actually, and wondering if I could use it on the current cars
Was just thinking about it recently actually, and wondering if I could use it on the current cars
I got the extractor.... but I've decided after using it a few times that I prefer doing the full drain on ramps... the extractor is just so slow, and still has a lot of clean-up involved, and can be messy/drippy... I installed a fumoto valve... so it's quick and easy to roll onto the ramps, remove four screws to take off my PS fan duct, and flip the fumoto... break the seal on the oil filter, let it drain for a couple of minutes... pull off the filter, install the new one, close the fumoto, shroud back on, pour in new oil, off ramps, done. Sounds like a lot of steps, but I can do it just as fast as my extractor changes were taking... and I don't have to cleanup the extractor when I'm done, and don't have the extractor hose dripping all over the place... that part just bugged the heck outta me... but I know other folks will and do prefer the extractor.
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Used an extractor on my boat engines as I would pull up next to the fuel dock and drain several gallons of oil directly into their holding tank. No mess, no disposal to worry about, quick and painless.
Never done it on my cars as I prefer to have it come out of the drain down to the last drop when it is nice and hot and I get to inspect the plug for any detritus attached to the magnet. I roll some between my fingers, look at the color, smell it ... one would think I'm buying first press olive oil for salad.
To each their own.
Never done it on my cars as I prefer to have it come out of the drain down to the last drop when it is nice and hot and I get to inspect the plug for any detritus attached to the magnet. I roll some between my fingers, look at the color, smell it ... one would think I'm buying first press olive oil for salad.
To each their own.
I have been using the fluid extractor for more than 20 years, having broken one in the process. I have heard all the problems with the extractor: not all oil is taken out, sludge at the bottom does not come out, plastic tube will melt if the engine is hot, why do they have a drain plug if they wanted you to extract it from the top... I have had great luck with all the cars so far with no engine trouble.
Would not go any other way if I can help it. Of course, many cars these days do not have a dipstick.
Would not go any other way if I can help it. Of course, many cars these days do not have a dipstick.
For some Marine Engine installations, Extractor is about the only way. 
With the Drain Plug (8mm Hex on mine) so accessable, that is the way to go,
you don't even need ramps or jacks.
Check the level prior to drain/extraction; 4.5 Qt is one to three 'threads' (depending on temperature)
below upper ferrule on dipstick. (Lower ferrule is 3 Qt and each 'thread' is about 2.5 Fl Oz.)
If using dipstick extractor, measure your extraction to get an idea of how much is still in the pan.
Subtract that amount from fill to avoid overfilling.
I like to start drain in the evening with engine hot, loosen fill cap and unscrew filter canister,
but do not remove until next morning.
Drain is complete and not a drop to spill from filter canister, use new copper 'crush' and 'O' Ring and tighten w/Torque Wrench.
(22 Ft/Lb on Drain Plug and 18.5 Ft/Lb for the filter canister.)

With the Drain Plug (8mm Hex on mine) so accessable, that is the way to go,
you don't even need ramps or jacks.

Check the level prior to drain/extraction; 4.5 Qt is one to three 'threads' (depending on temperature)
below upper ferrule on dipstick. (Lower ferrule is 3 Qt and each 'thread' is about 2.5 Fl Oz.)
If using dipstick extractor, measure your extraction to get an idea of how much is still in the pan.
Subtract that amount from fill to avoid overfilling.
I like to start drain in the evening with engine hot, loosen fill cap and unscrew filter canister,
but do not remove until next morning.
Drain is complete and not a drop to spill from filter canister, use new copper 'crush' and 'O' Ring and tighten w/Torque Wrench.
(22 Ft/Lb on Drain Plug and 18.5 Ft/Lb for the filter canister.)
Last edited by pilotart; Sep 21, 2008 at 11:33 AM.
While there's nothing *hard* about draining the oil via the plug, a good extractor makes it truly a breeze.
1) Hook up extractor to air compressor and wheel it over to car.
2) Remove dipstick and insert extractor tube.
3) Flip switch on extractor and watch it suck the oil into the reservoir
4) Replace dipstick, wheel extractor out of the way and disconnect compressor hose.
And done - no ramps/lift, no wondering whether or not I really need to replace the crush washer on the drain plug, and no laying on the ground reaching under the car - I don't even have to bend over. It literally makes draining the oil almost as easy as checking the oil.
1) Hook up extractor to air compressor and wheel it over to car.
2) Remove dipstick and insert extractor tube.
3) Flip switch on extractor and watch it suck the oil into the reservoir
4) Replace dipstick, wheel extractor out of the way and disconnect compressor hose.
And done - no ramps/lift, no wondering whether or not I really need to replace the crush washer on the drain plug, and no laying on the ground reaching under the car - I don't even have to bend over. It literally makes draining the oil almost as easy as checking the oil.
I have an '08 Clubman (non-S), and when I used a Mityvac fluid extractor for my first oil change I ran into two issues. First, it was hard for me to figure out when the extractor tube had bottomed-out in the pan. Secondly, the extractor left behind about 8oz of dirty oil. I checked this by removing the drain plug after I got out all the oil I could with the extractor.
For my second change I used the oil drain, as I want to be sure to get out as much of the old oil as possible. The drain plug on the Clubman is very easy to get to, I don't even use ramps. I do drive the driver's side front wheel up onto a small board (about 1" high) because the bottom of oil pan is tilted slightly away from the drain plug. Yes, it's messier, and yes, I have to get on the garage floor, but I'm never under the car, and it's only a small added inconvenience. Others may have had better luck with a fluid extractor, but it's the old-fashioned gravity drain for me.
For my second change I used the oil drain, as I want to be sure to get out as much of the old oil as possible. The drain plug on the Clubman is very easy to get to, I don't even use ramps. I do drive the driver's side front wheel up onto a small board (about 1" high) because the bottom of oil pan is tilted slightly away from the drain plug. Yes, it's messier, and yes, I have to get on the garage floor, but I'm never under the car, and it's only a small added inconvenience. Others may have had better luck with a fluid extractor, but it's the old-fashioned gravity drain for me.
Never done it on my cars as I prefer to have it come out of the drain down to the last drop when it is nice and hot and I get to inspect the plug for any detritus attached to the magnet. I roll some between my fingers, look at the color, smell it ... one would think I'm buying first press olive oil for salad.
To each their own.
I have used an extractor for small engines and toys, but there's something about crawling under my cars, inspecting stuff and draining the oil. I like the feel of accomplishment and getting a little greasy, helps with the bonding process between me and my cars.
I have been using an extractor for many years on my Audi. I just used it yesterday on my Mini and it worked great. I have also changed oil the old fashioned way for years as well and the extractor is much cleaner. It does take a bit of trial and error to get it all out but I did manage to get out just under 4.5 qts.
I had the extractor and didn't need to buy ramps and the correct bits to remove the drain plug. Both methods have the pros/cons.
I had the extractor and didn't need to buy ramps and the correct bits to remove the drain plug. Both methods have the pros/cons.
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