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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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What should be my first MOD

I got my 2005 mini cooper s 2 weeks ago and I need more power. Im used to my rx7 and STI so this thing needs some mods!

I want to know the best mods to increase HP and keep reliabilty and MPG. HELP!!!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Reduction pulley for your SC.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by eddiemonster
I got my 2005 mini cooper s 2 weeks ago and I need more power. Im used to my rx7 and STI so this thing needs some mods!

I want to know the best mods to increase HP and keep reliabilty and MPG. HELP!!!

I'm going to go out onto a limb and say that a pulley would not accomplish this too well. I would say get an exhaust system. How about dropping weight? Cold air intake also supposedly does wonders for horsepower AND gas milage.

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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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^ Have not heard of anyone having issues from 15% reduction pulleys, either with reliability or mpg.

Well, some lost mpgs only because the added power becomes addictive and the right foot tends to push down harder.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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get out the checkbook and go turbo!!! There's mad powa for ya!

in all reality, the Coopers are momentum cars. with careful suspension sorting, you can maintain better grip through the turn. For me, the Cooper S is a great blend of handling and power. Just enough to surprise the owners of vette's and evo's and the like through the twisties.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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get out the checkbook and go turbo!!! There's mad powa for ya!
Twurbo*

but i would just do S/C pulley, intake and exhaust. but if you want more try this website for some packages

http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...S&Category=211
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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A R56 S owner says 17%PULLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! match it with a crank 2% pulley....then the intake shroud to maximize cold air flow, but hell...... what do I know..... I have a turbo.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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What company should i go with for parts? I see all sorts of pullys. SO CAI Exhaust and Pully will get me about 215hp? What site sells turbo kits for cooper?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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You will not get that kind of power out of a pulley, exhaust, and CAI without a tune on a dyno by RMW, even then, it is a stretch.

Do not get any more of a reduction pulley than a 15%. The others over spin the s/c and water pump at high rpm, never good for longevity. CAI are for smoothing out throttle responce and adding noise, any power gains are negligable.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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A 3" strip of clearguard on the top section of the windshield to keep chips in the glass to a minimum.
The windshield is part of the structure of the car and prone to cracking with small chips.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eddiemonster
What company should i go with for parts? I see all sorts of pullys. SO CAI Exhaust and Pully will get me about 215hp? What site sells turbo kits for cooper?
i would go Alta. since you have a Sube you are probably knowledgeable of Perrin. Perrin and Alta are the same company. Top knotch products come from there. Alta is like the Dinan for Mini's. But i highly doubt you will get 215, i'd say about 200...

Here is where you can find the cheapest "Twurbo" kit. Alta is the only company that produces this kit so far. (that i know of)

http://www.highperformanceoutlet.com...ooper-S/Detail

http://www.coasttocoastusa.com/zenca...products_id=88

just do some research
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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How about driver education first!

take the car to track or autocross and learn how to control it in stock form before adding HP.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Alta is like the Dinan for Mini's.
I thought Dinan was the Dinan for MINIs
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eager2own
I thought Dinan was the Dinan for MINIs
hahha got me there more for the bmw's... but still dinan and alta both great companies.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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215 crank hp is definitely achievable with a Supercharger Reduction Pulley, Intake, Exhaust, Injectors and ECU upgrade. Cars with those mods are putting down somewhere in the mid to high 190's at the wheel.

If you want more power, from there you can step to an aftermarket head, thats when the real fun starts happening. For performance cylinder heads, we deal exclusively with RMW. During testing we saw gains of 30 whp from the head alone and that was on a car with all of the previously mentioned mods (supercharger pulley, intake, exhaust, injectors and ecu upgrade).


Is your car going to be daily driven? If so, I would honestly recommend sticking to tried and true mods, being the ones I mentioned above. Cars with a quality aftermarket head, pulleys and custom tunes (in addition to the other mods I listed before) are putting down almost the same horsepower numbers as the basic twincharge kits promise, but are doing so with much greater reliability. What good is 260whp if your car isn't running properly?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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What good is 260whp if your car isn't running properly?
that is probably the best quote i've ever heard.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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How about everyone just spout off about a buncha crap in this thread (minus a couple of you). OP, posts 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 & 11 are crap . Welcome to the boards and do your research before listening to a bunch of shade trees (including myself) before modding you car. It will pay off.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HighLife4136
How about everyone just spout off about a buncha crap in this thread (minus a couple of you). OP, posts 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 & 11 are crap . Welcome to the boards and do your research before listening to a bunch of shade trees (including myself) before modding you car. It will pay off.
hey, he wanted alot of power, i was just giving him options to look at.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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CAI
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Spending just a few hours on this site should give you some good answers, most everyone on NAM ussually does the pully, CAI, Exhaust, and then after that another step is the injectors, crank, etc... I think that is a good starting point, cheap(ish) and reliable and good power and more fun! I think thats what you are going for here. And yes, options are good, just look around there is lots of stuff you can do and dont let anyone tell you thats stupid because its not their car!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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I think that you should have CAI done before or at the same as the pulley. If you're going to be forcing more air into the motor its good to get rid of the bottlenecks first (at least the intake, exhaust can wait).
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HighLife4136
How about everyone just spout off about a buncha crap in this thread (minus a couple of you). OP, posts 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 & 11 are crap . Welcome to the boards and do your research before listening to a bunch of shade trees (including myself) before modding you car. It will pay off.
That's not nice
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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has the twurbo kit by alta reliable. It seems like the biggest HP gain for the money.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HighLife4136
How about everyone just spout off about a buncha crap in this thread (minus a couple of you). OP, posts 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 & 11 are crap . Welcome to the boards and do your research before listening to a bunch of shade trees (including myself) before modding you car. It will pay off.
Nice! Welcome to the intarweb and NAM.

Momentum car still holds true.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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I agree with what a lot of people have said. Most of the MINIs I have seen if they have been modded end up with at least a Pulley, CAI, and Exhaust. I think, like everything, people have their favorites and loyalties. I would ask some of the vendors and installers for their opinions also. My preference is Way at Way Motor Works he'll give you the honest scoop on anything he carries (pro & con).
 
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