Can you put the "S" exhaust on the R50? and if so, is there any benefit?

 

you would have to re-route the tail pipe to come out the passenger side, or aquire an S rear valence. to much work for the performance gains, probly better off just getting a custom exhaust or spend too much on a "cat-back".

 

So I'm thinking of replacing my rear bumper with an R50 areo or "S" bumper. Having said that, if I could buy a new take-off "S" exhaust for about $100, do you think it's worth it? Will there be any performance gain?

These are questions I have and need answers from those in the know, so I can decide what direction to go for on some performance mods this spring.

 

based on the weight of the s exhaust (yes I know - the weight of the spare) the net effect would be purely cosmetic not much if any performance gain

 

The stock S exhaust weighs close to 50 lbs. You'd be better off going aftermarket if you're looking for performance gain. The 1 HP gained from a free flowing exhaust would be off set by the additional 15 lbs of exhaust.

 

Thanks, this helps.

 

you can one ball the mcs exhaust first to make it lighter... not sure abt performance wise - mayb gain abit, mayb not - but it will sound better

 

You can indeed install a Cooper S exhaust on a Cooper non S.
It has been done many times.

The effect ?
It looks better.
Do not expect any performance gains because it won't happen.
All the people I have spoken to who have done this conversion, have even experienced a loss in performance.

I would go for an aftermarket exhaust.
Less work to install and if you're lucky, you might gain a little bit of hp.
Do not expect 3 or 5hp gains from just a cat-back exhaust.
If you gain 1-2hp, you can consider yourself lucky.

If you're looking for more hp or torque, this might do the trick :

-software
-cams
-sport cat. or cat. delete
-header (good mod if you're looking for torque)
-cold air intake (not a panel filter, a closed carbon intake)
- ...

Kind regards

Der Abt

 

This might sound kinda dumb, (and Im sorry for stealing this thread lol) but what are cams. I also have a mini cooper non S and am lookin to increase hp/torque

 

There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers

The camshaft is the part that is used to operate the valves.
It consists of a cylindrical rod running the length of the cilinder bank, with a number of cams protruding from it, one for each valve.
The cams force the valves open by pressing on the valve.

Here's a picture that shows what they do :



And here's what cams look like :



Kind regards

Der Abt

 

Great explanation and illustration.

But what makes one a high performance cam as apposed to the OEM?

 

ggod question lol

 

different "grinds" are made to open and shut the valves in different durations and sequences to give different results.

what works for more torque down low may not necessarily work for high rpm power. and what runs smooth for the stock grind may not actually produce the most potential power.

 

+1

Each type of cam shows different results.

Example :

Schrick cams provide a gain at high rpm, but Kent cams provide a gain through the entire rev range.
Each set of cams has their own potential, some better than others.

Kind regards

Der Abt

 

so basically (goin back to the point of the thread) if I wanted to I could put an "S Borla exhaust" on my non S?? would this be dumb?

(I already read all the weight stuff people have been saying but besides that)

(and obviously my spare would come off if I did this)

 

You could do that, but the question is "what do you want to achieve ?".
I assume you really want to go for the Cooper S look ?
You can have that Cooper S look and not go through all the trouble of installing a Cooper S exhaust on a Cooper non S (which will not add power).

I would go for a good cat-back exhaust for the Cooper non S.
This will add some power (not much but everything helps) and you can still go for the Cooper S look.
Eisenmann offers several types of exhausts including one that offers a Cooper S look (I have that one).
The pipes are both 75mm wide (wider than a stock Cooper S exhaust) and the setup of the exhaust is good too.
Instead of a turn at the end, with the Eisenmann it becomes a straight line.
As far as the quality goes, it's the best.
Eisenmann is known all over the world for it's high quality exhausts.

Picture of my Eisenmann:


Check out this thread :
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=124140

Of course, there are other brands out there that are also worth having a look at.

Another good brand is Bastuck.
Bastuck is a German exhaust supplier that is also well known.
They also offer a Cooper S like exhaust for the Cooper non S.
Link : http://www.bastuck.de

Here are two Cooper S like setups for the Cooper non S, offered by Bastuck.

Picture :


Picture:


There are other brands, but if you really want that Cooper S look and not lose performance (which will happen if you install a Cooper S exhaust), I would choose between one of those two brands.

Kind regards

Der Abt