ChrisMCS was saying i should disconnect it

with my wall in, if the airbag ever goes off, the wall would be in the way of some of it. what kind of effect would this have? could it somehow "backup" and all the airbag would be forced to the front cabin where im at, since with the box there, it wont have anywhere to deploy?

im putting the box in soon, within the next few days, so i need to make a decision.

 

Just Unplug them and leave them in if the lights on already. If you leave them enabled and you get into a minor accident that happens to trigger the airbag, it might cause more damage.

 

Ya see that's what I'm worried about. Should I completely remove them, or just unplug?

 

I would just unplug them. If you were going for lightweight (which I can blatantly see your are not) I would suggest removing them. Or you could remove them to make up for the added Lbs. Its up to you on that but I would deff unplug them. If they went off they would ruin all your hard work and put lots of splinters in the air and your face!

 

As far as completely removing them goes, how much does the 2 side curtain bags weigh? And I know there is the plug in the back by the 2 cylinders, there's another wire running up to the headliner I heard?

Also, my airbag light is on, but its only becuase I have my front seat out right now, so when I plug it back in, I don't still want the light on, so what resistors will I need just for the side curtain bags?

If I were to sell these, how much about are they worth?

 

I think the airbag with the motor and all could weigh up to 65-80lbs Each. You theoretically could take any 12 V resistor with the correct male and female ends and plug it in to fool the computer but I would double check that with more sources first.

 

damn, are you serious? they're that much weight? just the side curtain bags?!?! do you know how to completely remove this, and should i disconnect the battery first?

 

Anytime you play around with the airbags you should disconnect the battery.

 

I would like to point out that if the SRS light is on, NONE of the airbags will deploy. That light means the system is inactive and has a problem. Doesn't matter whether all the airbags are plugged in or not.

And SomeGuy, disconnecting just the battery WON'T help. The SRS system has capacitors just in case the battery should be disconnected in a crash, so the airbags will deploy regardless. They are VERY sensitive and remain armed unless you go use the factory disarming procedure. It takes a miniscule amount of electricity to set off an airbag. Thus the reason there are special test procedures.

Just unplug the little yellow connectors in the area you're messing with. Much safer that way.

 

Okay. In taking a better look at the posts in this thread, I'm just bashing my head against the wall.

that7guy, I hate to attack here but I can't believe the stuff I'm hearing from you. You have no flaming idea what you're saying. This is not 90's technology. The correct 12v resistor? SRS systems don't even RUN 12 volts!

You guys are messing around with stuff for which you have no training. Please, please, get someone familiar with MINI SRS systems to coach you on what you intend to do. Removing the airbags is fine. Doing it without experienced help is not.

 

yeah, this whole thread has me scratching my head as to "why"?

 

you need the right resistance (I think its a couple of ohms, but don't know for sure, do some searching) and the right wattage. Then the system will think the air bag is still there. I'd unplug and remove them, as if they go off, the expansion will probably blow out part of your box, or failing that, really screw up the windows and body.

Anyway, that's my take on it....

Matt

 

I realize this. Thats why i emphasized theoretically. I also said that he should refer to other people and not to listen to me because Ive been know to be a complete and utter idiot.

 

thats why i want to remove them. i will still have the dash airbags, and the airbags in my factory seats.

 

Airbag systems are pretty manufacturer specific and it would take some experimentation to come up with the correct resistor, and then the time to wire it in so the SRS control unit is fooled. We tried this experiment when I was in school (using a resistor, that is) but it didn't work.

I agree; just best to disconnect the airbags and leave the system otherwise alone.

 

Did you not read my previous post? The airbags WILL NOT DEPLOY if you remove the side curtain bags. Period. You can't make it work with an incomplete circuit. So you will have no airbags in the event of a crash.

 

search other threads...theres MANY people running Sparco (i believe) racing seats.

those seats have no airbags, so the wiring harness for the factory MINI seats airbags stays unplugged.

therefore, the airbag light comes on.





you can take a 4 ohm (i believe) resistor from radio shack for like a dollar, and it tricks the system to thinking its plugged in, and the light goes off. the other airbags will then work since the light isnt on, even though there is no seat airbag plugged in.

same can be done with the side ones. im just waiting for someone who has removed them, and knows what resistor to use.

 

I just don't know. It's senseless to me. The MINI is still a very light car, and the extra weight of the safety built-ins can be easily overcome with engine tuning. That way the car is fast AND you have airbags if you smack into a wall.

 

Did you even read into why he wants to disconnect the airbags? His car wont be fast after the 432,634,245 LBS in wood and subs are added.

 

THATS NOT THE REASON IM REMOVING THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im removing them becuase of this!!!!!

do u see how the box goes all the way up, if the airbag goes off, its going to go right into the box, and cause more problems.

 

thanks, lol.

its actually 500lbs, and thats incluing 4 amps, 20 mids, 20 tweets, the sub, the box, and 2 70lb batteries.

if those airbags really weigh that much each, if i take those out, ill be saving alot of weight that i added from the box.

not being a ****, but some of you guys just DONT understand this-

IM NOT INTO TRACK, PERFORMANCE, OR RACING. THATS NOT WHAT IM DOING WITH THIS CAR.

/rant, lol

 

Yes. You can find the correct resistor with a little searching. Yes, you can trick the system into thinking it's working. But judging by this thread, your questions and responses, I doubt you have the electrical experience it takes to work on SRS systems safely. That's why I've been begging you to get in touch with someone who knows how to do this, instead of asking people on this forum.

Ever wonder at the scarcity of MINI technicians on here?

 

No, I didn't.

 

thats why i posted this thread becuase i know its been done, im just waiting for the people who HAVE done it that KNOW what resistor and what process to follow to do this saftly, to reply........

 

I hate to frustrate you, and I hear what you're saying. You're not tracking the car. Okay. But it's just senseless. I can understand removing the airbags for making a competitive race car, since they aren't necessary for the track. But federal law mandates cars have airbags. The airbags are what protect you most in a crash. MINIs are not half as safe without them. Why you'd want to disable them at all (for stereo equipment of all things!) is beyond me.