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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:44 AM
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OBD info present?

Hi folks

I've got an idea for a really nifty mod if the data are there.
Can anyone tell me if the OBD (or, really, anywhere) provides the following information?

If you have a stickshift, does OBD provide data for clutch engagement (on or off the pedal?)
Does it also say which gear you are in?

thanks!
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Looks like it could from looking at the generic trouble codes available

That doesn't mean that the Mini's computer is capturing this.

http://www.myscantool.com/dtc/
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Clutch in out is NOT from OBD

But it is in the diagnostic interface that is BMW/Mini specific. Gear your in isn't available, but can be calculated from speed and RPM. What are you cooking?

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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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well, that's just it, i need to know what gear the car is in while the clutch is down. It would be a shift indicator which would advise whether or not the engine RPM was appropriate for the road speed given the gear the car is in. Would make learning stick much easier for newbies.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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What's wrong with the "old" way?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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It can be done BUT

you have to hack the BMW/MINI code, not the OBD data. It wouldn't work too well on the slower OBD interfaces, as you get less than 10 Hz out of the interface, and it can be as slow as 2 Hz if you're asking for lots of stuff.

There is a way to do it from OBD-II data. But it's not fool proof. You can calculate the gear the car is in when the clutch is engaged, watch RPMs, and from gear ratios know what RPM should be targeted based on the gear that you're shifting into. This would have to assume that the shift was into the correct gear.

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