JCW R56 S JCW Dyno results
#26
Dyno day was fun. Saw some pretty cool cars (not just MINIs)... and some other cars that reinforced the addage "don't judge a book by it's cover". Specificlly a few ratty ricers putting up some scary figures (300hp out af a civic!?! A 450hp older rx7!?!).
Used a Dynojet and Winpep 7 program
Other stuff (some I didn't understand):
Gear - 3rd
Run Type - RO (?)
Temp - 53.45 degrees F
Humidity - 61% humidity
Uncorrected - 1.00 (?)
CF - Uncorrected (?)
Smoothing - 5 (?)
Max power = 180.21(hp) between 5600-5700 rpm
Max torque = 204.25(ft-lbs) @ 4400-4500 rpm
Power and torque curves were nice and smooth, confirming my seat-of-the-pants opinion of the R56S JCW (or at least MY R56S JCW).
Power was a little down from what I had hoped, as I've seen other R56s JCWs topping out between 187hp and 193hp at the wheels. The UK chart first posted was 206bhp!!! (I'm guessing that had to have been a corrected number estimating power "at the crank"... otherwise, we're really getting ripped in the US!!!).
I have no idea what factors could have come into effect causing me to be 7-10 hp off from other US hp numbers out there. Then again, the Hawaii car shown earlier was putting out 170hp... so, I don't know. It's all new to me. Maybe someone else can give me a little education and provide some insight.
If this one is too hard to read... the GREAT BIG version is in my gallery.
Used a Dynojet and Winpep 7 program
Other stuff (some I didn't understand):
Gear - 3rd
Run Type - RO (?)
Temp - 53.45 degrees F
Humidity - 61% humidity
Uncorrected - 1.00 (?)
CF - Uncorrected (?)
Smoothing - 5 (?)
Max power = 180.21(hp) between 5600-5700 rpm
Max torque = 204.25(ft-lbs) @ 4400-4500 rpm
Power and torque curves were nice and smooth, confirming my seat-of-the-pants opinion of the R56S JCW (or at least MY R56S JCW).
Power was a little down from what I had hoped, as I've seen other R56s JCWs topping out between 187hp and 193hp at the wheels. The UK chart first posted was 206bhp!!! (I'm guessing that had to have been a corrected number estimating power "at the crank"... otherwise, we're really getting ripped in the US!!!).
I have no idea what factors could have come into effect causing me to be 7-10 hp off from other US hp numbers out there. Then again, the Hawaii car shown earlier was putting out 170hp... so, I don't know. It's all new to me. Maybe someone else can give me a little education and provide some insight.
If this one is too hard to read... the GREAT BIG version is in my gallery.
Last edited by msh441; 12-15-2007 at 05:57 PM.
#27
#29
it´s really interesting, another R56 jcw dyno results, thx so much
Most of the dynos in spain, gear used is 5th (in 6speed cars), 4rd in cases 5speed cars, i´ve never seen 3rd gear used at dynos for a 6speed car
curves and forms are right, more or less, really i was thinking peak power jcw r56 would be at 6k rpm, and the max power looks a bit low (so knowing is whp), sorry.
In three weeks i´m going to install jcw kit and i will return my car at the dyno to compare with stock results past june, i´ll post the results, both.
regards from spain
Most of the dynos in spain, gear used is 5th (in 6speed cars), 4rd in cases 5speed cars, i´ve never seen 3rd gear used at dynos for a 6speed car
curves and forms are right, more or less, really i was thinking peak power jcw r56 would be at 6k rpm, and the max power looks a bit low (so knowing is whp), sorry.
In three weeks i´m going to install jcw kit and i will return my car at the dyno to compare with stock results past june, i´ll post the results, both.
regards from spain
Last edited by gasss; 12-16-2007 at 07:36 AM.
#30
I think the dyno takes gearing into account by comparing engine rpm vs wheel rpm. the run just is over faster in a lower gear.
#31
#32
So if the average driveline loss is 12-14%, then...
180.21 x 1.12 = 201.83
180.21 x 1.13 = 203.63
180.21 x 1.14 = 205.43
OK. I can live with that.
180.21 x 1.12 = 201.83
180.21 x 1.13 = 203.63
180.21 x 1.14 = 205.43
OK. I can live with that.
I have a question. Shouldn't the formula for calculating the crank hp rating be:
180.21 x (1.00 / .86) = 209.55 bhp for 14% drivetrain loss
therefore a 12% loss would yield about 204.78 bhp (?)
#34
Yeah, I wasn't sure what to think, either. Should I feel slighted that it's not the 193hp at the wheels (the number that MINI suggests should come from the R56S JCW, but doesn't specify where it was measured)... or really pleased that its supposedly making much-much more than that at the crank? Just where, why and how is MINI getting their power figures?
Last edited by msh441; 12-17-2007 at 12:58 PM.
#35
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