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JCW New JCW brake kit for '08

Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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New JCW brake kit for '08

Just read about this on motoringfile. Not much technical details out yet, but I guess they want something for us R56 guys to upgrade to, since our cars come standard with the JCW brakes. They say the front calipers will be bigger, bigger rotors, and different pads....I'm hoping they get rid of the "sliding" caliper design, and hopefully make them at least 2 pistons....maybe even 4 piston calipers
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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so should i hold off on my order for a 2008 model?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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That won't matter... The brake kit won't be a factory installed option for 2008. Maybe it will be later on (2009, etc.), but at first it will just be a dealer installed option and should work with any 2007 R56 as well.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Ahhh....here's of pic of the new brakes...4 pistons!!!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scott48
Ahhh....here's of pic of the new brakes...4 pistons!!!
Any quotes yet on price!?! I'll definitely be speccing those.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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No price yet, hopefully no more than the previous kit which was like $1300 I think, but with 4 piston monoblock calipers and bigger rotors, totally worth it.....I think I'm gonna have to get the kit as well!!!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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hmmm... very interesting... i love how monoblock calipers look, but im wondering if i should go with the stoptechs or the JCW? i guess it will come down to reviews when the JCW kit comes out.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Is this the same kit that is currently advertised on the online configurator?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Is this the same kit that is currently advertised on the online configurator?
No, that is the old one, which is the standard brake setup on the R56s....the one with the 4 piston calipers isn't out yet, next year apparently.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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So you mean they are charging over $1300 for some redpaint on the calipers and different pads front and back???

Holy Crap!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol
So you mean they are charging over $1300 for some redpaint on the calipers and different pads front and back???

Holy Crap!
Yep...red paint, oh and a JCW sticker.....I think the pads might even be the same.....oh and drilled/slotted rotors which you can buy separately anyway.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scott48
No price yet, hopefully no more than the previous kit which was like $1300 I think, but with 4 piston monoblock calipers and bigger rotors, totally worth it.....I think I'm gonna have to get the kit as well!!!
Scott, if its $1300, would you really choose for this over something like Wilwood or Stoptech?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Scott, if its $1300, would you really choose for this over something like Wilwood or Stoptech?
I would want to know all the details first, like: weight, rotor size, caliper size+if will fit under web spoke wheels, performance (60-0mph, etc), and who is actually gonna make the calipers(JCW or maybe have help from another company). And if the kit is $1300(I have no clue if it is), then that would put it right in between wilwood and stoptech price wise; so I probably would go for it.....Like I said though, I want all the details before I would buy.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Stopping distance won't be much different from stock, nor the aftermarket kits. With poor rubber you will reach the point of lock up either way.

The biggest downfall here will be the rotor. While I have not seen it, no doubt it will remain one piece. For many track day users this is a sure sign of high maintenance cost. I'd put money on about 12.5" x 1.00" and non directional. Weight won't be ideal.

Pad options might be questionable. Without knowing the plate used you may find that pads here in the USA are harder to pick from. Adding this to the front will mean they'll need to deal with brake balance some so I suspect pedal feel will be better not only due to the four pot design but also the piston area.

Monoblock? No, those are two piece calipers. And certainly would not be mono for this price. Low profile here behind S-lites means very thin pads and lighter weight caliper bodies too. *granted I can't see around the corner but you only have so much room and I'm pretty familiar with it. Thin pads means greater heat transfer to the caliper. Narrower caliper bodies means greater flex.

On the waaay plus side: Dealer add-on. Check the box. Financed!! Something the rest of us can't do too easily. I'll call it a wash.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Stopping distance won't be much different from stock, nor the aftermarket kits. With poor rubber you will reach the point of lock up either way.

The biggest downfall here will be the rotor. While I have not seen it, no doubt it will remain one piece. For many track day users this is a sure sign of high maintenance cost. I'd put money on about 12.5" x 1.00" and non directional. Weight won't be ideal.

Pad options might be questionable. Without knowing the plate used you may find that pads here in the USA are harder to pick from. Adding this to the front will mean they'll need to deal with brake balance some so I suspect pedal feel will be better not only due to the four pot design but also the piston area.

Monoblock? No, those are two piece calipers. And certainly would not be mono for this price. Low profile here behind S-lites means very thin pads and lighter weight caliper bodies too. *granted I can't see around the corner but you only have so much room and I'm pretty familiar with it. Thin pads means greater heat transfer to the caliper. Narrower caliper bodies means greater flex.

On the waaay plus side: Dealer add-on. Check the box. Financed!! Something the rest of us can't do too easily. I'll call it a wash.
Correct me if you're not talking about the wheels in the picture above, but those are Crown Spokes, not S-lites. Not sure if that even makes a difference in what you said, but I know my (former) rims when I see them.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by toddtce
Stopping distance won't be much different from stock, nor the aftermarket kits. With poor rubber you will reach the point of lock up either way.

The biggest downfall here will be the rotor. While I have not seen it, no doubt it will remain one piece. For many track day users this is a sure sign of high maintenance cost. I'd put money on about 12.5" x 1.00" and non directional. Weight won't be ideal.

Pad options might be questionable. Without knowing the plate used you may find that pads here in the USA are harder to pick from. Adding this to the front will mean they'll need to deal with brake balance some so I suspect pedal feel will be better not only due to the four pot design but also the piston area.

Monoblock? No, those are two piece calipers. And certainly would not be mono for this price. Low profile here behind S-lites means very thin pads and lighter weight caliper bodies too. *granted I can't see around the corner but you only have so much room and I'm pretty familiar with it. Thin pads means greater heat transfer to the caliper. Narrower caliper bodies means greater flex.

On the waaay plus side: Dealer add-on. Check the box. Financed!! Something the rest of us can't do too easily. I'll call it a wash.
Do you know of any calipers that fit behind 17" web spoke wheels without spacers, or ones that fit with a few mm spacer? Any of the wilwood kits on your site?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Oh, if any of you want to give me a break on your stock R56 brake setups that would be great!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Sadly I don't Scott. There in lies some of the problem with kits out on the market today. The Wilwood DP caliper is about as tight as you can make it. I can do up something a bit narrower yet if I change the offsets and do it with a Dynlite maybe but I'm just not keen on that caliper. For much the same reason I mentioned above. It's just not a street car caliper in my opinion. Even if it were made the cost would be near the DP caliper kit now if it included two piece rotors.
 
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