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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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6000K vs. Stock 4300K (updated pics 5/17/06)

Just thought peeps might want to see the difference between 6000k D2S Phillips Ultinon Bulbs and the stockers (4300K)
Also these show the difference between the stock H7 highbeams and the Super Whites from Supreme Power Parts.
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UPDATE 5/17/06: I tried my best to get as representative a picture as i could of both the 6000K HIDs and the Super White H7's. Unfortunatly, they arent that great. Check out post #22
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Hi Lexmcs, do you have shots from other angles and/or with highbeam off? Also, did you get yours at ebay?
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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lexmcs thank you for the pics. Do you notice a difference when driving? Or is the color the biggest change?
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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I just removed a set of 6500k HIDs that I used as my highbeams. They were a great addition. But I don't want to replace my expensive stock xenon bulbs just yet.
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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I thought high beams were halogens and not HIDs??
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bster
I thought high beams were halogens and not HIDs??
Right...I put in a HID kit and removed the halogens for a while.
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bster
Here's my 6000k...
Both 6000K, but Bster, yours looks more blue than lexmcs's.
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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pics of lights are some of the most impossible pics to take...accurately.

Comparison photos for color as you mentioned will never be totally equal. It all depends on the camera and exposure etc.
 
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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fs-mini:
i will try to get some more shots for you tonight. As RallyMINI mentioned, it is very difficult to get comparison pics, but i will try to keep the exposure settings the same. I got the H7 bulbs (highbeams) from Supreme Power Parts (you can google it). They were the 55W bulbs

I got the 6000k Xenon D2S bulbs from Xenon Factory
http://www.xenonfactory.com/products/hid/bulb.htm

mdsbrain:
Major difference is the visible color. Its not really that blue, but i like it. As for the visible light, its not as severe a loss as if say i used 10000K bulbs. I notice a little loss, but nothing to worry about.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Ah, yes mine is more purpleish/blueish because it was taken with all the lights off. I have another photo that shows that it isn't that tone/hue.

Basically the 6000k feels like a more elegant whitish/purpleish hue. Visible light isn't affected much, it just feels much less than the stock bulbs. It is, but not much.

However, i always have friends telling me my lights are quite bright. So people will definately see you coming. And you can definately see the road ahead with ease.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Anybody worked on converting the foglights into HIDs? I don't need to worry about fog as i don't get it at all.

It's more for lighting up dark roads and not meant for daily use... just in case anyone starts flamin' ...
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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i think the main problem you are gonna run into is where to put the ballasts. I have noticed with our cars that space is kinda limited
Polarion Lighting just came out with "Rebased" HID Kits. Apparently they converted the D2 bulbs into various standard connectors (H7,H11, etc)
http://www.xenonfactory.com/products/hid/polarion.htm
Good luck.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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a great place to get HID's is www.easterneurotuning.com they have all sizes and color temps

I'm gonna be doing the fogs shortly....i will take pics to show where the ballasts are gonna go
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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I think the ballast is the least of the problems. I more worried that the area that fits the HID bulbs might melt/burn due to the limited foglight space. And this has been the one and only problem that is stopping me from doing this...

Furthermore, i'm in the tropics, so the atmostpheric temperature is quite hot already. About 33C*
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bster
area that fits the HID bulbs
which area? the mounting location or the actual housing?
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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i think he is talking about the actual housing. I have been trying to find some thermal statistics for both halogen and hid bulbs without much luck. Maybe its time to call some of my favorite MINI techs
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lexmcs
these show the difference between the stock H7 highbeams and the Super Whites from Supreme Power Parts.
How do the H7 Super White highbeam bulbs look when off? Do they make the light housing blue?
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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i think he is talking about the actual housing. I have been trying to find some thermal statistics for both halogen and hid bulbs without much luck. Maybe its time to call some of my favorite MINI techs
yah i was looking too

the housings arent abnormally small though....nothing more so than any other car and i know lots of BMW guys who have done this.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
How do the H7 Super White highbeam bulbs look when off? Do they make the light housing blue?
Unless you look at the head light straight on from about 2 feet away from the headlight, no they do not make the housing blue at all. But here are those pics from two feet away.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Hi Lexmcs, do you have shots from other angles and/or with highbeam off? Also, did you get yours at ebay?
BTW, i didnt forget about getting you some pics, unfortunatly its rainy and cold here, SOOOO sometime next week when this crappy weather decides to move along i will get you some more pics.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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first one is HID, second one is highbeam
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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first one HID, second one highbeam last one i thought was a cool pic
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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I was looking to see what the factory xenon bulbs are and found this thread and decided to revive it. I'm currently "retrofitting" HIDs into my fogs. I'm using a pair of old Honda/Acura OEM Xenons (D2S).

As far as mounting: I have the ballasts and ignitors temporarily mounted with tape until I buy some Automotive Double-Sided tape. I placed the ballast in the bumper valence and the igniter behind the fog light housing towards the bottom.

I ran into a problem when my Driver Side HID (fog light) came loose and started melting my fog light housing. So now I'm going to take the housing off and try to dremel the burnt/melted plastic to fit the D2R bulb (I'm ordering D2R bulbs) permanently. I'm thinking of using Silicone to bond the bulb socket to the fog light housing. Any suggestions? I don't want this falling out of place again as I'm lucky all I need to replace (if anything) is the fog light housing.

I'm curious if any of you have done it. BTW the factory Xenons on our cars are the Philips 4300K correct? I would love the Philips Ultinon 6000K (which is really 5800K) but at nearly $200+ a set no thanks lol
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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sounds like it would be easier to just throw some projectors down there? I know someone else did that and posted a how to

HID bulbs in non-projectors are tacky

the thread i was talking about(which i know see that you've seen): https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...=projector+fog
 
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