I'm trying to understand what the big deal is here.

To me eyes, the canards look nothing alike.

Having come from the Subaru community where design theivery runs rampad, the Mini community doesn't seem to have nearly the problem if it can be even considered one compartitively speaking. Everyone's design are different. Some are good, some not-so, some just down right tacky.

If stealing design is a problem, then perhaps its best to get a patent on something to protect it. I mean, what else can be done?

 

See from my perspective it looks like a few out to get m7 based off bad incidents. It sounds like m7 has had some rough times between the previous owner undergoing a deathly sickness and ownership changing. Now you have a new owner taking the heat from customers holding grudges. The problem is that majority of the time you see bad reviews. Angry people tend to act out more and state their minds versus people that have great experiences. Sure if they are asked the will tell their positive stories but that's why google reviews and other sites are bad because you don't get a fair reading. It would be like if eBay only showed negative feedback. I say cut m7 some slack. They seem like they are willing to help customers from the past who have had issues. I watched in another thread where I saw someone commenting on a rusting m7 product that they purchased from another user. M7 credited them on the part they didn't even sell them. Now if you ask me that is great service. I don't want to see m7 go under but I myself am very high up in a small business and I know just how much the fewest bad comments can negatively affect a company.

 

That's cute. That was the easily the dumbest thing I have read this week. Today is Thursday though so you still have a chance.

 

Oh, design thievery is here. Getting patents on a part is one thing, pursuing it is another. Nobody in this industry sells nearly the volume to make patent pursuit--especially for Chinese manufactured parts--an option.

 

Now that there is funny.....

 

Glad to see someone's at my maturity level to enter a pissing match with me. Thanks for being trolled.

 

You sure showed me.

 

Yeah but i thought it was funny when one web site said something like


Great mini products but with out the "way" attitude. I think that said it best

 

Sometimes that "Way" attitude helps... At least he is honest, and not afraid to tell you that something is junk, even if it costs him a big ticket sale.

One time, I was sitting in the middle of Iraq bouncing around online, picking up parts for my initial build, and saw a Siebon CF hood at WMW for a good price. I sent Way an email, and surprisingly within like 15 minutes I received a PM here on the boards from Way, saying to call him if at all possible. So I put my cloths on, walked a mile through the FOB in the middle of the night to the phone center, and gave him a call. He already knew who it was when he picked up, and we got straight down to business.
First thing other than Hi ****, was these hoods have had some severe fitment problems, and he doubted this one would be any different.
We talked about it a few minutes, and since he was straight foreword about the problems that would probably come up, I decided to take a gamble, get it out of his shop, and shipped to my house.
When I returned home 6 months later I began trying to prep that hood to be fit to my car, and after a few days of nothing wanting to even go onto the hood, I decided to call it a loss, scrap the idea and move on. Never gave any fault or grief over the interwebs to the place I got it from, and never even called Way to complain about it.
Way let me know full on first thing what I was getting into, and if that is having an attitude to some, well... Those people where probably corrupted into thinking that the product they are thinking of buying is 100% perfection by that company, and supporting vendors just like you. They push the junk, full on knowing it is JUNK, and could use some serious work to just meet the expectations of the consumer. Whatever it takes to put another dollar into their pocket...

 

Bump....

 

well M7 pulled the item in question, atleast the link is now bad.

 

Nope...
Still selling it...long discussion about it being stolen...new owners keep selling it...shame.

 

The canard " conflict " was put to bed once people actually saw both products . The only similarity was their location on the car .

 

I see you are still on this crusade so once again if this looks like adding a little lip you need to get a better monitor


Additionally the fact that the two items in question are designed for different applications didn't seem to register did it ? The M7 piece is designed for the aero front end where the other item was made for the stock front end but could be modified for the aero.


I do not know how many variations of canards would work on the limited space offered by the Mini so there are bound to be similarities but the claims of copying are absurd and unfounded but that never stops the chatter . In a way its helpful keeping the interest up so its all good once the dust clears. As for how M7 has stayed in business for 12+ years they must just be lucky


The JS design






The M7 product

 

Why are you so quick to bash M7? I do not see you bashing NM Eng or Alta...their intakes are nearly identical to each other.....or Eibach or TEIN for making nearly identical springs....or better yet Megan racing....when I had a Civic they would all make fun of the guys/gals who bought Rota wheels because they were "imitations"....at some point you are going to have to look past the end design and look at the people of the company....call them and speak to them and develop your own opinion dont just badmouth because of what you have heard through the grapevine.....there are only so many ways to make parts for a particular car...so YES some of them are bound to be similar..........

 

Hmmmm, Rota being made fun of? They should be built better than most Chinese copies & priced reasonably. They get much love over in the UK.....talking minitorque, not TotalMINI.
Hope the new M7 owners redeem the name. The guys deserve a clean slate.

 

Guess you better start a crusade against any vendor here selling upper strut mount defenders plates while your at it.....Last I checked about all the vendors here have their own version of them and OMG they look exactly alike too

There are probably about 30 different companines manufacturing and selling this exact same canard/splitter mounted to same bumper location for many of the tuner car lines today. Not to mention the fact that these front air foils/wing splitters/ were actually a carry over part from the aeronautical industry so by your ill-logic you should be calling the lawers who represent Boeing