Ok so here's the deal. It only takes a minute or two to remove the rear wheels. There is a lot if discussion about do you or can you without removing the wheels. You can but it's a pita. Just take them off before you start and the whole job takes but a few minutes and without the 4 letter words. Extremely easy job. I thought about taking pics as I went through it but got on a roll and before you know it I was done. One tip: on the rear flap install the self tapper closest to the outside edge of the car first. I made this mistake on the first flap and there is no way to get to the inside to hold the nut if you install the inner screw first. Pleased with he outcome and look of the mud flaps. I will post pics tomorrow.