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Old 12-12-2008, 09:30 PM
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RMW cam only

Hi there,

was wondering what power gains i can expect just from a RMW cam install + Tune, without the RMW header on a GP.

Reason I'm asking is cos i find that the header is too loud for my liking.

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Old 12-13-2008, 06:13 AM
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Do you already have an RMW tune? That makes a difference in what you'll see. The tune is good for some amount of tq/hp, all other things being equal.

I had a tune done first, then added the cam, then later added the header. Did not dyno with just the cam, but I estimate it added 5-10 lb-ft of torque in the midrange. Then a bigger jump came when the header was bolted on... the header kinda unleashes the cam and lets it exhale....

Jan has a *quiet* exhaust that can retain all the power and quiet the header...
 
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Old 12-13-2008, 06:58 AM
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PM "THE ITCH" Jan tuned his stock GP and I think he had 204 or 205 at the wheels. I had the race header and exhaust and had 212 @ the wleels. I added the cam and a retune and had 219 @ the wheels. Not sure of anyone with just the cam on a GP. Call Jan or send him an email.
 
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Do you already have an RMW tune? That makes a difference in what you'll see. The tune is good for some amount of tq/hp, all other things being equal.

I had a tune done first, then added the cam, then later added the header. Did not dyno with just the cam, but I estimate it added 5-10 lb-ft of torque in the midrange. Then a bigger jump came when the header was bolted on... the header kinda unleashes the cam and lets it exhale....

Jan has a *quiet* exhaust that can retain all the power and quiet the header...
The inverted commas is what i'm afraid of! To be honest, i'm quite happy with the way the stock exhaust sounds. I wouldn't mind going a wee bit louder, but nowhere as loud as Jan's header.
 
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:28 AM
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5 - 10 ft lbs of torque and about 7 bhp.

Not too bad
 
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The cam is way better than the Schrick I had in my 03-JCW car. Jans header with stock exhaust or a Milltek sounds fine to me.
 
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:53 AM
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How does the idle quality compare to a stock cam?
 
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Very slight lope on mine - bumps around just a bit from about 730-800RPM - not obnoxious, and not something most folks notice... took me a while to really notice it, driving it every day. Kinda sexy, actually....
 
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Mine is fine even with a/c on. There is a lump to the idle but not one that will cause any problems like the Schrick in hot weather.
 
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Very slight lope on mine - bumps around just a bit from about 730-800RPM - not obnoxious, and not something most folks notice... took me a while to really notice it, driving it every day. Kinda sexy, actually....
Same thing mine....
 
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