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Old 03-31-2008, 09:58 PM
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#448 INFO?

Hi folks..I been in the market for a GP since I got my R56, so i keep a tab on ebay mostly, I just saw #448 for sale,but... has a salvage title which i do not mind but it does have holes on the roof? anyone on this forum knows about this MINI GP? the dealer mentions a fender bender and list the MINI in excellent condition...I just like to know if anyone knows the history of this MINI..
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HOLES on the Roof?? What kind of fender bender was this poor GP involved in ?

Check the list of GPs on GBMINI website .. see if is the same original owner selling or not.
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PM me the last 7 of the VIN.
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honestly if your hardcore into it carfax the little bugger
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holes might be from a roof rack?
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Holes in the roof mean lower center of gravity!
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holes might be from a roof rack?
you are correct sir
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question.... if one puts a roof rack then removes it the MINI is left with holes in the roof? How large? We are planning to put a r r on the Clubman
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this GP Mini was sold to a happy home in SFO, but no more history on it,the holes on the roof must been from a NON-MINI roof rack. too bad.

I will pass on this one. right now is at 6K+ reserved not meet. I asked some questions but no response from the seller.
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question.... if one puts a roof rack then removes it the MINI is left with holes in the roof? How large? We are planning to put a r r on the Clubman
I do believe you are left with holes Marina. options would be to plug them with rubber caps, or dont take off the roof rack...
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The holes caused by the roof rack was exactly why I did not buy one... ...would like one though...Oh well.

Good luck finding a GP
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I do believe you are left with holes Marina. options would be to plug them with rubber caps, or dont take off the roof rack...
The R56/R55 roof rack mounts on the edge and only requires small holes in the black rubber trim, which you can barely see when the roof rack is off. It does not involve cutting holes in the roof like you have to with a R50/R53.
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The holes caused by the roof rack was exactly why I did not buy one... ...would like one though...Oh well.

Good luck finding a GP
Thank you..

here is a picture of the holes





I hate those adr wheels but I easily can get my hands on a new set, so I was not too worry about them..but the H O L E S!!! why???
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:10 AM
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OMG !!!!!!!!

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Thank you..

here is a picture of the holes




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question.... if one puts a roof rack then removes it the MINI is left with holes in the roof? How large? We are planning to put a r r on the Clubman
The 08' roof racks DO NOT require drilling holes in the roof. You can install it yourself - we did on our Clubman - piece of cake.

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looks to be the roof rack... the R50/53s will require drilling into the roof to ensure that the roofrack will have a mount
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so this GP doesn't have her original wheels and has a messed up roof that cannot be replaced .. HUMMM smart buy... if it does sell let me see who is buying it
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Check the shot of the engine bay, the GP intercooler has been replaced with a stock intercooler, and the cover has been painted silver. If the intercooler has been removed, how about the head? Or the GP ecu?
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The silver cover is for the standard JCW engine upgrade - but with the unique GP wheels and intercooler removed, you have to wonder what else has gone
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:13 AM
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The silver cover is for the standard JCW engine upgrade - but with the unique GP wheels and intercooler removed, you have to wonder what else has gone
I agree, however, the JCW cover does have a JCW Works sticker on it. We have a reply from the seller that said he replaced the GP wheels with a higher performance wheel set.
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I saw this listing on ebay also, looked like the engine was missing some GP elements. I got additional pictures from the seller of the damage prior to repairs...check out my link below. Didnt look like the damage would warrant a salvage title or engine swap...strange.

http://picasaweb.google.com/wenluu/G...208823PM?pli=1

I was looking at driving out to check this out, the car is about an hour north of me.

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I looked into buying this car to flip it and came to the conclusion that it has been wrecked twice.....

the pictures that the link above sends you to must be the 2nd wreck.

The first wreck was so bad that they replaced the GP motor with a cooper S (hense the stock intercooler with JCW cover...I would image the JCW kit was installed to get it back to as close as possible to a GP)

This is all just a guess.....too bad...I would have loved to run a GP for the summer and then give her off to a loving owner.....

If it is too good to be true.......you know the rest...
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sad story..
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You really have to wonder what else he is hiding as why get rid of the GP wheels for JCW wheels that were on her during wreck. Also how does he or has he ever indicated why there are NON GP parts in the Eng Bay.
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I definitely wouldn't touch this one with a 9 1/2 foot pole....
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