I don't know where this caps stuff started, but this is rediculous! Now there's a differece between a first gen MINI and a Mini? Sheeze, why not first gen for the early, second gen for the first new Minis, and thrid gen based on the R56 family of changes....

Anyway, I know it's a small thing, but for the life of my I can't understand the value in the designations that we appear to be stuck with.

And it makes editing articles a total pain in the butt!

What do you all think?

Matt

 

Maybe Mini (classics)
MINI 2.0 (R53/R50)
MINI 2.1 (R56)

 

I believe the R56 will be a MiNi.

 

I just type Mini for all of them. It seems silly so I don't really care enough to keep up with all the CAPS vs nocaps

 

How about MINI with +T technology

 

From memory, the all caps MINI for the "new MINI" was a MINIUSA thing. Apparently, in the UK, they're all Minis.

 

And MINI Canada

Mark

 

More like:

• Classic Mini
• CLASSIC MINI (R50/R52/R53)
• MINI (R56)

 

Classic Mini
MINI
Frenchy MINI

 

From my point of view:

Original classic cars (2000 and before) - Mini
ANY newer car (2002+) - MINI

If you want to talk about a specific model, just use the code. R50/R52/R53/R56 and more to come...

Big deal. The name "Mini" or "MINI" refer to a BRAND NAME. The brand name does not change with newer models. A MINI is still a MINI, regardless of which generation it is. However, the brand name, design and intent between MINIs and classic Minis are completely different... hence the distinct capitalization. I think using the two terms REDUCES confusion instead of adding it.

Incidentally, I can and DO frequently edit thread titles to use the correct capitalization. If you create a thread about a new MINI (any generation) and use "Mini" or "mini", don't be surprised if you come back later and it has been renamed with the capitals. Same goes for MC, MCS, JCW, iPod, eBay, SIRIUS, or any other thing that is supposed to have distinct capitalization.

I'm a stickler for detail, because it's the details that makes the site easier to read and more professional in appearance. I don't edit post content though, just thread titles (as if I had time to edit all of your posts to fix capitalization! Heh)

 

Original.... Mini Mk I

R50-53....MINI Mk II

R56....MINI MK III

 

What's the problem, Matt? They're all spelled the same.

I actually like the Mini vs. MINI designation.

 

So look at the picture on the miniofhawaii web;do they know something we don't know?

 

Mustang hasn't become MUSTANG nor
Corvette CORVETTE nor
Thunderbird THUNDERBIRD

and on and on. Mini isn't the first car to do significant redesigns, shifts in technology, or the like.

I must admit due to my own shortcomings in typing, spelling and punctuation, that's I'm particularly biased on anything that requires something as subtle as capitalization...

And Edge, in your post, did you mean to say "a MINI is still a MINI"? because that's pretty self-evident. I think you meant to say "a Mini is still a MINI" or was it a "MINI is still a Mini"!

I'm confused, my brain hurts, and we have no single word that covers them all.

Matt

 

Mustangs, Corvettes and Thunderbirds aren't brand names, they are model names. MINI is a brand name. Distinct difference. The model names are still One, Cooper and Cooper S, without capitalization.Then the problem isn't the "system", the problem is your difficulty in adapting to the system! No, I meant to say exactly what I said. The point being... just because 2nd generation MINIs are out now does not mean we need a new term. They are still MINIs, just like the 1st generation MINIs were. The term "MINI" does not need updating or changing. There are still only two terms we use here - Mini and MINI.

If you need to talk about a specific generation of model, you simply have to say "1st Gen", "2nd Gen", or better still, use the model code!Yes we do - MINIs. Classic Minis are separate - they share absolutely no parts or (some would say) design methology. They are a throwback to a heyday that is long gone with modern safety and technology requirements. We love them though... and I would go so far as to say they deserve their own word - and Mini is it.

Let's face it though - the only time you really need to talk about both MINIs and Minis at the same itme (including in the magazine) is when you're talking about nostalgia. So unless you're going "old school", just use the term MINI always (since I'm sure all of your articles are about the BMW-designed models) and be done with it! Problem solved!

 

stickler

because

fixt for you.

 

It doesn't matter what color you are. It doesn't matter how you're built. In an attempt to thwart all dissentions between groups I propose a humbling of all letters for all included vehicles, from the first to the last:


mini


No mini left behind.


Yes... yes... it appears you are.

 

fixed.

 

Dammit! It's lose not loose!

Punctuation/grammar thread hijack!

 

LOL - DOH! Fixed... permanently. Hey, I never said I was perfect. The perils of typing in a hurry at work, when I should be working instead. Oh yeah, I went ahead and took care of merging your back-to-back posts, shankrabbit.

Incidentally I don't like the idea of just using "mini" because without any capitalization at all, it degrades them all, as though they aren't "good enough" to be capitalized. They are names, they deserve it... or else outsiders might just think we're talking about a word that means "small", not a vehicle brand!Umm... I just searched the page, your post is the only instance of "loose" on the entire page. <--- until this one

 

mini Mini MIni MINi MINI.......hey do u see a pattern......Mini Theory of Evolution.

 

The last iteration of the original Mini was a Mk VII

 

HOW CAN YOU CALL CAPITALIZATION SUBTLE?
It is anything but subtle (see above.)

 

I know, just general rant. People seem to swap those around all too frequently.

 

Because, with regard to differentiating between the pre-BMW and the BMW, it's obvious and less verbose than saying first gen Mini, second gen Mini, etc.:
MINI=BMW version
Mini=original version(s)

It could not be more simple.