2006 S vs 2012 S Handling
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The 06 MCS is a purist car. It is known for raw great handling. I am all about gen 1s, but as long as the weight of the 12 is close, I am sure you can make it do what you want. I do not like the jump in power in the turbo engines, due to the fact, if you are in a tight turn and smash the skinny pedal, you may not go the way you want to!
But I would rather see you in the 06!
But I would rather see you in the 06!
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For me the 06 Gen1 is supercharged, my user name says it all IMO, and both the front and back are more rounded. The 12 Gen2 is turbo charged, the front end is elongated more and the back is more angular. The Gen2 does have more comforts and shakes/rattles less than the Gen1.
For me, buy the best example of either that is within your budget.
For me, buy the best example of either that is within your budget.
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So it really comes down to what tickles your fancy the most. The raw nature of the Gen I or the more refined nature (and better gas mileage) of the Gen II. MINIs are great that way. Choices, choices, choices. And none are the wrong choice.
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Well I Drove " MY"New 2006 Mini S home last night..
90 miles of joy down the Pa Turnpike..Smiling all the way.
Woke up this morning and purchased new R90 wheels from ESC Tuning.
Some minor paint chips and this car is one beauty.
well taken care of and always garaged..
What a find..thank You for leading me in this direction.
90 miles of joy down the Pa Turnpike..Smiling all the way.
Woke up this morning and purchased new R90 wheels from ESC Tuning.
Some minor paint chips and this car is one beauty.
well taken care of and always garaged..
What a find..thank You for leading me in this direction.
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Well I Drove " MY"New 2006 Mini S home last night..
90 miles of joy down the Pa Turnpike..Smiling all the way.
Woke up this morning and purchased new R90 wheels from ESC Tuning.
Some minor paint chips and this car is one beauty.
well taken care of and always garaged..
What a find..thank You for leading me in this direction.
90 miles of joy down the Pa Turnpike..Smiling all the way.
Woke up this morning and purchased new R90 wheels from ESC Tuning.
Some minor paint chips and this car is one beauty.
well taken care of and always garaged..
What a find..thank You for leading me in this direction.
If you have a family, get the larger Minis of today. They are comfortable and nice, only bloated for the true fun the gen 1s give!
If I had a family, I would have at least one geni and at least one Mini Maxie!
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Hmmmm,
And He bought a MINI as a companion to the Slingshot. Nice!
The car looks to be in beautiful shape. Those are extra long bolts coming thothe top of the strut towers. Some work has been done there. Do you know if the shocks have been replaced? Or was it just the reinforcement plates put in?
At any rate, nice find there.
Enjoy.
And He bought a MINI as a companion to the Slingshot. Nice!
The car looks to be in beautiful shape. Those are extra long bolts coming thothe top of the strut towers. Some work has been done there. Do you know if the shocks have been replaced? Or was it just the reinforcement plates put in?
At any rate, nice find there.
Enjoy.
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I ordered the R90's this morning they were on sale and caught my eye.
Had similar wheel on my Lotus and it was just a nice look.
And ECS Tuning had then at 1/2 off and just had to push the button.
I want to keep this S but I have not been one to keep any vehicle
over 2 years except my Kelmark kit car with 455 Olds for 33 yrs.
wife made me keep Evora for 3 years she hates me buying and selling..LOL
But I am having fun and that is what counts.
Had similar wheel on my Lotus and it was just a nice look.
And ECS Tuning had then at 1/2 off and just had to push the button.
I want to keep this S but I have not been one to keep any vehicle
over 2 years except my Kelmark kit car with 455 Olds for 33 yrs.
wife made me keep Evora for 3 years she hates me buying and selling..LOL
But I am having fun and that is what counts.
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Not trying to suggest Modding the car out. But, if at sometime you are looking to take care of "wear" parts, shocks are something that I would look at (suggest the Bilstien B6s and, yes, above the FSDs for spirited driving).
Got to say, love your other toys...
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Thank You for that information.. I will keep those thoughts.. For driving it home last night I hit a few holes that I did not see and it was some rattling that took me by surprise.
But I thought short wheelbase and sport suspension.. So maybe replacement shocks
will be worth it to save what I thought of Mini ride coming home with just those few small holes in the road.
So Eddie07S you would suggest Bilstein B6 for not spirited driving ??? FSD's for more spirited cornering ??? If any one has thoughts I would like to hear from you on this matter.
I do want the car to handle but do not need Rally type handling and want the S to absorb bumps and not jar the car..
One other thing I was thinking with 45k miles changing Plugs and wires..Any thoughts on this or something else that I should do with S that seems to be totally stock ??Than You again for input
The only thing I will really will do is the bonnet /hood has many stone chips in it and I will fill them and paint to bring Mini appearance back .
But I thought short wheelbase and sport suspension.. So maybe replacement shocks
will be worth it to save what I thought of Mini ride coming home with just those few small holes in the road.
So Eddie07S you would suggest Bilstein B6 for not spirited driving ??? FSD's for more spirited cornering ??? If any one has thoughts I would like to hear from you on this matter.
I do want the car to handle but do not need Rally type handling and want the S to absorb bumps and not jar the car..
One other thing I was thinking with 45k miles changing Plugs and wires..Any thoughts on this or something else that I should do with S that seems to be totally stock ??Than You again for input
The only thing I will really will do is the bonnet /hood has many stone chips in it and I will fill them and paint to bring Mini appearance back .
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I have the B8s, which are for "lowered" cars, but the Bilstein web page also implies that they are are for more "performance" (track/street?) driving. Mine, I got used from someone who did "winning" autocross. I should also say, that I have them paired with stock height springs. The Bilstein web implies that that the B6 are for performance street.
So to your question. I have had the FSDs and now have the B8s. The FSDs are a really nice, all around, performance street shock. But my feeling is that they are tuned more for ride first, handling second. The B8s are a really good street shock that are also really good on the track and for autocross. I expect the B6 to be in the same league as the B8s. As for the FSDs, they only way that I can describe them is that they seemed to get "confused" on the track and autocross and wound up too soft. So for spirited driving - B6. For ride - FSDs (why they are going on our base Cooper). My opinion.
There is also a B4 that is an OEM replacement. I have read good things about it; actually really good. They are listed for the R53, but that may be wishful. Anyway, I am more into the "more control" side of things which the B6 and B8s give.
So to your question. I have had the FSDs and now have the B8s. The FSDs are a really nice, all around, performance street shock. But my feeling is that they are tuned more for ride first, handling second. The B8s are a really good street shock that are also really good on the track and for autocross. I expect the B6 to be in the same league as the B8s. As for the FSDs, they only way that I can describe them is that they seemed to get "confused" on the track and autocross and wound up too soft. So for spirited driving - B6. For ride - FSDs (why they are going on our base Cooper). My opinion.
There is also a B4 that is an OEM replacement. I have read good things about it; actually really good. They are listed for the R53, but that may be wishful. Anyway, I am more into the "more control" side of things which the B6 and B8s give.
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Also, as I noted, I have the run flat rubber on the car and the ride is acceptable (meaning I drive it around pot hole city here in the NE), without feeling beat-up. I also have stiffer springs than you and way bigger front and rear sway bars; also stiffer. This car is my 3 season DD and my wife (not a car nut, but loves her '04) likes taking rides in it.
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