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Old 08-23-2011, 04:47 AM
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FFS - (Flat Foot Shift)

Coming from STI I had Cobb AP loaded with software that allowed for FFS. My JCW is stock and I tried a FFS the other day out of habit ... It worked ... the motor did not 'over-rev' ... I simply held the throttle down and shifted near red line and repeated without lifting throttle ... worked great!
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:22 AM
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Hard to over-rev when you are already hitting the rev limiter
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:23 PM
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I've never heard of FFS, it's just revving to redline and shifting?
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:41 PM
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Shifting without taking your foot off the gas while pressing the clutch.
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:34 PM
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oh damn, I didn't even know people did that, this is good to know. I kinda want to try it out.
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Richieb0y28
oh damn, I didn't even know people did that, this is good to know. I kinda want to try it out.
Lmao and i can already see your next thread' "Somehow i blew my transmission..." hahahah jk U walked into that one
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:33 PM
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hahaha I mean I just want to try it out, I don't plan on doing it all the time.
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:56 PM
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I did it by accident once when my foot got caught on the floor mat. The car didn't seem to mind but I haven't done it since.
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:03 PM
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I do this fairly regularly, in the mini turbo lag isn't much of an issue but in cars with larger turbo it enables you to shift without loosing boost. If you are familiar with the technique it isn't too hard on the tranny. I have 127k on my G35 no lift shifting since new and about 55k on the mini and never a complaint form the tranny. If you have never done it before, not sure i would go practice on a newer car, when i first began doing it i had an e36 and between that and the 7200RPM clutch dumping i made quick work of the tranny and diff. the clutch, although it had plenty of life left on it, had to be replaced due to the fingers snapping off the pressure plate
 
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i did this after the fast and furious
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:29 PM
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Wow sounds like it would be bad for the tranny... But also sounds cool if u know what you're doing
 
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by turtle343
i did this after the fast and furious
 
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:15 AM
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how about CFFS?

can ya do it clutchless???


 
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I can do this all day on my bike, upshift and downshift but its without the clutch. Just let off on the throttle and shift without the clutch. I wouldnt try it on a car though. I hear guys do that FFS around here but most of the time its cause they miss getting into gear lol.
If you guys do it and have no problems cool, enjoy.
 
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yeah I always do clutchless on my mountain bike. also if i get a good launch i can do a wheelie.
 
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its hard on the tranny and clutch but I do it, it is also called a no-lift shift
 
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Originally Posted by SPDinNY
its hard on the tranny and clutch but I do it, it is also called a no-lift shift
Or Back In The Day, it was a Speed Shift...
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by automan21
I can do this all day on my bike, upshift and downshift but its without the clutch. Just let off on the throttle and shift without the clutch. I wouldnt try it on a car though. I hear guys do that FFS around here but most of the time its cause they miss getting into gear lol.
If you guys do it and have no problems cool, enjoy.
You can do it on your bike because it uses dog cut gears. I'm not saying it's impossible to do with a spiral cut gearbox but it's significantly more difficult.



About 1:30 in this one is pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-k3Y...eature=related

Warning, this one gets VERY pitchy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8

Start at about 2:30 in. (Mini content)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCWlUQwyhCs
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 04:58 AM
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Sounds like a race car with a quick change rear end...
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by flatlander_48
Or Back In The Day, it was a Speed Shift...
also call it Powershifting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powershifting in some stick shift turbo car if you do it fast enough before the redline you will get zero lag constant boost shift.
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:57 AM
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The Back In The Day I was referring to was the 60s and 70s. Not too many turbo cars back then...
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flatlander_48
Or Back In The Day, it was a Speed Shift...

Yes it was, did a lot of it when Drag Racing.
 
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by flatlander_48
Or Back In The Day, it was a Speed Shift...
Back in the day (circa 1963), it was called a power shift! That expression showed up in a Beach Boys tune ("Shut Down", I think) - the one about a race between a fuel injected Stingray and a ram inducted Dodge 413.

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Old 09-09-2011, 03:30 PM
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It happened on the Strip where the road it wide,
Two cool shorts standin' side by side...

Well, that was what they called it in California. Not being from California...
 
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when ya do it, make sure ya do it with a Floyd too

(it don't mean a thing...)
 


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