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Mach V Dan 09-18-2008 12:43 PM

Aftermarket wheels that fit R56 JCW brakes
 
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Thanks to Krut, who stopped in today and allowed me to test a bunch of wheels on his new R56 JCW. We tried the following wheels:

Attachment 168358
- Rota Torque, 17x7.5" +45 FITS!

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- Rota SVN, 17x7.5" +45 FITS!

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- Rota Slipstream, 17x7.5" +45 FITS!

- Rota RB 16x7 +40 DOES NOT fit. (No surprise there, but I thought I'd try.)
- Rota RB 17x7.5" +45 DOES NOT fit, but might with a 5mm spacer.
- Linea Corse MC 18x8" +45 DOES NOT fit, but will with a 3mm spacer.

--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net

STLMINI 09-18-2008 01:38 PM

Cool! How many sets did you try?

Are there any measurements out there that I could see if my wheels will fit?

Tu13es 09-18-2008 02:06 PM

Awesome. We really ought to get a big ol' list going so we can keep track of what wheels will and will not work.

:thumbsup:

minim8o 09-18-2008 03:45 PM

Much thanx, but Awe... serious bummer on the results of the RB... :cry: I had my heart set on it. I don't think I want to use spacers as that'll increase the scrub radius and thus torque steer. ..SVNs are pretty kewl I guess!

Krut 09-18-2008 04:26 PM

Stock Challenge wheels and tires are 42.0 lbs as weighed by Mach V's postal scale.

I'll add that Dan and I are almost positively sure 17" BBS RV-F will clear the Brembo's easily. I have a set that are itching to go on.

So Mach V Dan - what did you think driving mine with my "squishy" suspension? :-)

Minitauro 09-18-2008 04:54 PM

Cool. I have a set of 18x7.5 +45 Rota Subzero's on order. Hopefully no issues there :lol:

Tu13es 09-18-2008 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Krut (Post 2474327)
Stock Challenge wheels are 40.0 lbs as weighed by Mach V's postal scale.

I'll add that Dan and I are almost positively sure 17" BBS RV-F will clear the Brembo's easily. I have a set that are itching to go on.

So Mach V Dan - what did you think driving mine with my "squishy" suspension? :-)

Wow, didn't realize that they're that heavy. Are the wheels at FastMINI particularly light, or are the Challenge-spoke wheels particularly heavy? Or both?

Krut 09-18-2008 05:36 PM

I've corrected my earlier post to reflect that's the weight of wheel and tire.

Tu13es 09-18-2008 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Krut (Post 2474445)
I've corrected my earlier post to reflect that's the weight of wheel and tire.

Ah. How much of that is the tire? Just trying to get an idea of how heavy the Challenge spokes are compared to others.

:)

BigMiniAl 09-18-2008 07:07 PM

The Challenge Spokes alone are 22 lbs. each which isn't that bad. I'm thinking of powder coating them a matte black when my JCW gets here.

minim8o 09-18-2008 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Krut (Post 2474445)
I've corrected my earlier post to reflect that's the weight of wheel and tire.

17" Wheel + Tires at 40lbs is quite good! Surprised the run-flats are that light (18lbs). I guess it's because they're kinda narrow compared to what I'd been used to.

Mach V Dan 09-18-2008 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Krut (Post 2474327)
Stock Challenge wheels and tires are 40.0 lbs as weighed by Mach V's postal scale.

42.0, actually.


So Mach V Dan - what did you think driving mine with my "squishy" suspension? :-)
Comfortable!

Mine is a lot stiffer (I've got OEM Sport shocks, and our Mach V springs on it.) I do like the slot-car handling of the lowered car, but there's something to be said for a compliant ride. Like the times when I can't hear my passengers because the road is bumpy and their speech comes out all stuttery? Then I wish for the soft factory springs and non-sport shocks. :)

--Dan
Mach V

Mach V Dan 09-18-2008 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by STLMINI (Post 2474102)
Cool! How many sets did you try?

Um, all the sets I listed?

--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net

eyevin68 09-23-2008 06:40 AM

Mach V Dan, i'm loving the Rota torque, matte blk w/ red accent!! Those would be smoking on my PW/Blk JCW clubman. I'll be needing winter tires soon, just trying to justify the Wheels. Besides, i do like the Challenge spoke. Decisions, decisions :nod:

phlash 09-23-2008 07:00 AM

Did you guys find a 16" that will fit???

Krut 09-23-2008 07:16 AM

None of the 16's Dan had in stock fit.

phlash 09-23-2008 10:44 AM

I'd like to find some that will fit over that brake setup. I run 16's on r compounds for track events now....running 16's makes a huge difference in our MCS on the track. Please keep us informed on your findings. Thanks

Motor Head 09-23-2008 11:40 AM

It might be possible with the right rim contour and if you kept the wheel weights towards the inside or on the rim lip, but a 16" wheel would be a very tight fit! There is barely any clearance between the brake caliper's outer edge and the inside rim surface even with 17s (OEM wheels anyway).

VicSkimmr 09-24-2008 08:38 AM

Are you planning on selling your stock rims? :wink:

ENGINE 58 09-30-2008 01:17 PM

hey mach v dan can you post up some pics of the slip streams mounted with tires on ? also kind sir do you have the weight of the wheel and tire combo? im trying to plan ahead for my next mini . colors etc. im thinking of pepper white with black wheels. thank you sir for any help.

Mach V Dan 10-01-2008 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by ENGINE 58 (Post 2489147)
hey mach v dan can you post up some pics of the slip streams mounted with tires on ? also kind sir do you have the weight of the wheel and tire combo? im trying to plan ahead for my next mini . colors etc. im thinking of pepper white with black wheels. thank you sir for any help.

Sorry, I don't have a pic handy of a MINI with Slipstreams on it, but search these forums and you should be able to find some.

Wheel + tire is going to vary based on tire weight, but the wheels are 18.15 pounds each.

--Dan
Mach V

ENGINE 58 10-07-2008 03:18 AM

mach v dan thank you sir.

Red Bull 10-12-2008 01:49 PM

I like the first ones the best....I decided to paint my gloss or matt black, not sure yet. When I get my car at the shop I will see what will look best.

Mach V Dan 10-23-2008 07:21 PM

We've had several calls about this subject this week. I'm searching for some more wheels that fit, so stay tuned.

--Dan
Mach V

ENGINE 58 11-05-2008 05:17 PM

any updates buddy :)

SrqMiniJcw 11-10-2008 02:43 PM

I just found out that the BBS LM 17" 4x100 17lbs will clear the Big brembo brakes, the only bad side of that is that they are $700 each...

batty_bruce 11-15-2008 05:06 PM

i did a test fit of my 17" Rota Subzero's today. No problems and plenty of clearance around the calipers.

ENGINE 58 11-16-2008 07:20 AM

we need pics as soon as you guys can get them up buddy :)

minim8o 11-16-2008 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by ENGINE 58 (Post 2554114)
we need pics as soon as you guys can get them up buddy :)

they make one heck of an attractive couple...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...postcount=6439

I'm tempted to get winter tires w/them now. But is there any truth to they not being produced anymore?::
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ro#post2139687

batty_bruce 11-17-2008 04:48 PM

[quote=minim8o;2555145]they make one heck of an attractive couple...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...postcount=6439

good looking pics. nice find.

all i can show off is a "pro quality" iphone pic. :razz:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ubzero_003.JPG

my subzero's have been my summer rims for the past two years and i am quite happy that they fit the new mini. I like the lightish weight and "black chrome" finish on my red cars.

ENGINE 58 11-17-2008 06:35 PM

they look sweet guys, can you get them in flat black?

SmokeM 11-27-2008 04:06 AM

Will a 42 offset work with with the JCW calipers? What about a 73 hub bore (whatever that means)?

minim8o 11-27-2008 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by SmokeM (Post 2568974)
Will a 42 offset work with with the JCW calipers? What about a 73 hub bore (whatever that means)?

I believe the bigger concern is the rim's back-spacing depth [the depth from the spokes to the hub face], affected by both the offset & [moreso I believe] by the rim geometry in the depth of the rim's spokes.

redevil 11-27-2008 01:40 PM

wow I really like the torques with the red lip. That would look great on my 08 MCS PW/W

Mach V Dan 12-01-2008 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by minim8o (Post 2569235)
I believe the bigger concern is the rim's back-spacing depth [the depth from the spokes to the hub face], affected by both the offset & [moreso I believe] by the rim geometry in the depth of the rim's spokes.

This is true. The shape and design of the wheel's spokes and rim are going to determine whether or not it will fit over the brake caliper. The offset is somewhat important, because if it's too low the tire will hit the fender, and if it's too high the tire and/or wheel can hit the strut, brake, or fender liner. But for most wheels on the JCW the brake clearance is going to be the determining factor as to whether the wheel fits on the car or not.

Hub bore is just the size of the center hole of the wheel. The MINI has a 56.1mm hub, so anything larger should have a hubcentric ring to center the wheel.

--Dan
Mach V

Mach V Dan 12-02-2008 02:22 PM

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Updated. This wheel will not fit directly, but will with a 5mm spacer.

Attachment 168361

Linea Corse MC 18x8

--Dan
Mach V

minim8o 12-02-2008 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mach V Dan (Post 2573221)
This is true. The shape and design of the wheel's spokes and rim are going to determine whether or not it will fit over the brake caliper. The offset is somewhat important, because if it's too low the tire will hit the fender, and if it's too high the tire and/or wheel can hit the strut, brake, or fender liner. But for most wheels on the JCW the brake clearance is going to be the determining factor as to whether the wheel fits on the car or not.

Definitely "my bad" for using the wrong terminology, calling it backspacing instead of what it is, caliper depth/height. Sorry all about that.

n1tr0 01-10-2009 11:22 AM

Is there any chance the Rota RB 16x7 would fit with a spacer, or is the inside radius of the wheel just too small ?
They're just the perfectly proportioned wheels on my MCS and I'd love to keep them for when we get a JCW.

rjb 01-10-2009 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by n1tr0 (Post 2622810)
Is there any chance the Rota RB 16x7 would fit with a spacer, or is the inside radius of the wheel just too small ?
They're just the perfectly proportioned wheels on my MCS and I'd love to keep them for when we get a JCW.

I don't think any of the 16" wheels fit over the front brakes.

phlash 01-18-2009 06:21 AM

Another:

I'm looking at track wheels for the JCW....anyone know if the Kosei K1-TS will fit OK? Thanks.


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