F55/F56 Is there another car like the MINI?
#1
Is there another car like the MINI?
Just curious if there is another car that has the distinctive looks, and peppy characteristics that a MINI has?
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
#2
Just curious if there is another car that has the distinctive looks, and peppy characteristics that a MINI has?
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
#3
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Honda CR-Z
I previously had a Honda CR-Z. It's about a second slower then the F56 Justa in the 0-60. Other than that it's fairly similar. Fantastic steering and the ability to throw it around through curves, and the electric assist gives it pretty good torque, for the engine size.
It's actually a few inches shorter and has a tighter turning radius :-)
I loved it, but needed a backseat for future tiny family members.
It's actually a few inches shorter and has a tighter turning radius :-)
I loved it, but needed a backseat for future tiny family members.
#6
I used to work at a Porsche and Audi dealership. Maybe it was just because I was also driving Carreras and S4s around all day, but I remember being distinctly unimpressed with the TT. I'm sure its acceleration is fine, but I found the interior to be relatively bland / stale design and the handling to be not as interactive and fun as a MINI.
#7
I used to work at a Porsche and Audi dealership. Maybe it was just because I was also driving Carreras and S4s around all day, but I remember being distinctly unimpressed with the TT. I'm sure its acceleration is fine, but I found the interior to be relatively bland / stale design and the handling to be not as interactive and fun as a MINI.
Thinking it's more about the size than anything else. MINI just begs to be scooted around town. Thinking (and from what I've heard and read) the Miata is another car in that same category. I do not like roadsters, so I discount any car that falls into that category, but with a fast back coupe in the works from Mazda, the Miata may be a nice drive.
Size wise the Miata is very close to the MINI, the Audi TT is the next closest.
MINI L 152 W 68 H 56
Miata L 154 W 68 H 49
TT L 165 W 72 H 53
Cayman L 172 W 71 H 51
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#8
That wasn't released until 2006, after my stint at the dealership. I did get to drive the first Audi S8 in the United States, though.
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#12
The Abarth is closest to the R53 MINI in terms of overall driving experience. IMO the Fiesta ST is about as close as it gets to the newer MINI's in terms of pace and chassis feel.
Both the 86 Twins and the NC Miata are comparable in certain ways, as does a Cayman despite the price delta.
I don't think the GTI compares at all on an emotional level. It feels like a big isolated boat, despite being quick and competent through corners.
Both the 86 Twins and the NC Miata are comparable in certain ways, as does a Cayman despite the price delta.
I don't think the GTI compares at all on an emotional level. It feels like a big isolated boat, despite being quick and competent through corners.
#13
Really driven allot of car here ( on and off track ) and there and nothing really comes close to the MINI, the R53 R52 and R50 have a more connected feel to the road. The R56 feels more soft but still more connected then anything else. I would say a racing go cart with much more hp would be close.
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#14
I drove a Fiesta ST and the BRZ before choosing my MINI.
The Ford felt cheap and poorly designed, and had a reallly springy clutch, I hated driving that thing. Not much character.
The Subaru was rather fun, with a much more "race-y" feel to it. I think the throw on the shifter was so fantastically short and comfortable. It very much had the teenager drift pig car feel, though. But damn was it fun.
The BRZ was probably closest in feel to the MINI but alas, it is a RWD naturally aspirated car, a totally different beast.
The MINI felt a bit more refined than both. Never would have gone with the Fiesta, the BRZ was a very very close option. But the MINI affliction caught me.
The Ford felt cheap and poorly designed, and had a reallly springy clutch, I hated driving that thing. Not much character.
The Subaru was rather fun, with a much more "race-y" feel to it. I think the throw on the shifter was so fantastically short and comfortable. It very much had the teenager drift pig car feel, though. But damn was it fun.
The BRZ was probably closest in feel to the MINI but alas, it is a RWD naturally aspirated car, a totally different beast.
The MINI felt a bit more refined than both. Never would have gone with the Fiesta, the BRZ was a very very close option. But the MINI affliction caught me.
#15
Just curious if there is another car that has the distinctive looks, and peppy characteristics that a MINI has?
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
I know the VW GTI and others may be faster and have provide the same driving experience as the MINI, however, they all look so much alike, they lose much appeal in my eye.
I suppose the Miata is one that is distinct and would be a fun car as would the Alfa 4C (for about twice the price).
Any other worthy candidates that match the MINI in distinctiveness and pure driving fun?
I cannot come up with another worthy choice.
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#16
Every other reasonably priced option I have tried definitely do not give that feel of connection and control that the Minis do. Even the newer F models feel more disconnected than the earlier generations of Minis, and I have logged about 6000 miles this year in a few different F models while my R56 was in the dealership for never ending repairs. Miatas are the only reasonable priced competition as far as fun factor and the feeling of "oneness" with the car, but being a 2 seater with negligible storage space make it an unreasonable choice for a daily driver when you have 2 kids. Abarth came second as far as 4 seater handling/fun factor, but that poor little thing hit every branch when it fell out of the ugly tree. A friend who has an Abarth and previously owned an R53s says the only difference to him is he used to catch himself just looking at his Mini, and the Fiat only looks good through the windshield.
#17
This new Fiat looks promising with killer good looks (but only come in a drop top)
Two spy shots are of the Fiat (black).
Red Miata fastback looks promising (and quite fetching) with a lot more storage space than the rag top. Both are to be priced similar to a well optioned MCS.
Fiat looks sexy, but QC would be questionable. Miata looks very nice (in a throwback sort of way) and has the Mazda rep of reliability.
Our F56 may as well not have a back seat, but I do find the fold down's extra storage to be absolutely wonderful. Thinking maybe a 2017 Miata for a second car with some functionality for getting groceries or short weekend trips with more that a carry on.
Two spy shots are of the Fiat (black).
Red Miata fastback looks promising (and quite fetching) with a lot more storage space than the rag top. Both are to be priced similar to a well optioned MCS.
Fiat looks sexy, but QC would be questionable. Miata looks very nice (in a throwback sort of way) and has the Mazda rep of reliability.
Our F56 may as well not have a back seat, but I do find the fold down's extra storage to be absolutely wonderful. Thinking maybe a 2017 Miata for a second car with some functionality for getting groceries or short weekend trips with more that a carry on.
#19
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/2...-2017-7722230/
http://newcarstrends.info/2017-mazda-mx-5-coupe/
MX-5 Miata: The fourth generation of the venerable MX-5 Miata debuts at a media event next month before going on sale next summer for the 2016 model year. The redesigned MX-5 is expected to be close to the original Miata in terms of dimensions and the roadster's roughly 2,100-pound curb weight. Under the hood will be a Skyactiv 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission.
Roughly a year after the soft-top goes on sale, Mazda will release a hardtop MX-5 that will have a unique, fastback-style silhouette, Automotive News has been told.
#20
From what I gather Mazda is going to offer one based on the new design in 2017. 60% of the buying public have wanted one and I understand Mazda is going to tap that market.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/2...-2017-7722230/
http://newcarstrends.info/2017-mazda-mx-5-coupe/
2017 Mazda MX–5 - Next Mazda MX–5 coupe will arrive in 2017 - YouTube
MX-5 Miata: The fourth generation of the venerable MX-5 Miata debuts at a media event next month before going on sale next summer for the 2016 model year. The redesigned MX-5 is expected to be close to the original Miata in terms of dimensions and the roadster's roughly 2,100-pound curb weight. Under the hood will be a Skyactiv 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission.
Roughly a year after the soft-top goes on sale, Mazda will release a hardtop MX-5 that will have a unique, fastback-style silhouette, Automotive News has been told.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/2...-2017-7722230/
http://newcarstrends.info/2017-mazda-mx-5-coupe/
2017 Mazda MX–5 - Next Mazda MX–5 coupe will arrive in 2017 - YouTube
MX-5 Miata: The fourth generation of the venerable MX-5 Miata debuts at a media event next month before going on sale next summer for the 2016 model year. The redesigned MX-5 is expected to be close to the original Miata in terms of dimensions and the roadster's roughly 2,100-pound curb weight. Under the hood will be a Skyactiv 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission.
Roughly a year after the soft-top goes on sale, Mazda will release a hardtop MX-5 that will have a unique, fastback-style silhouette, Automotive News has been told.
#21
I used to work at a Porsche and Audi dealership. Maybe it was just because I was also driving Carreras and S4s around all day, but I remember being distinctly unimpressed with the TT. I'm sure its acceleration is fine, but I found the interior to be relatively bland / stale design and the handling to be not as interactive and fun as a MINI.
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#23
Rabid Miata fans have been foaming at the mouth for an MX-5 coupe since the 1996 M Coupe Concept. IMO, it'll only happen over Mazda's dead body. The closest it got was the NC PRHT, and so far it's only rumor mill and one patent drawing that the ND will have a manually actuated retractable hard top.
#25
What post above said.
IMO I don't think any of the mentioned by the OP are as peppy as the Mini. I traded my wife my '16 GTI for her mini because of this reason. The GTI has more top end, clearly.. but its laggy down low, not as peppy. The final drive or all the other gears could be closer. I use to ride on the highway in fourth at times, mostly in 5th.. 70mph in 6th and you're at 2,200rpms even though they say torque comes at 1500, not true.
I test drove the Abarth and it was laggy as hell, even in sports mode, at least for my taste, nothing to do with the Mini. The mini does offer a harsher ride but it could be due to the run flats.
That's all I have for now, not meant for discussion or criticizing the other rides, this is my subjective take on the matter of these rides.
Adding pics, to make it fun.
Mr. Peppy
IMO I don't think any of the mentioned by the OP are as peppy as the Mini. I traded my wife my '16 GTI for her mini because of this reason. The GTI has more top end, clearly.. but its laggy down low, not as peppy. The final drive or all the other gears could be closer. I use to ride on the highway in fourth at times, mostly in 5th.. 70mph in 6th and you're at 2,200rpms even though they say torque comes at 1500, not true.
I test drove the Abarth and it was laggy as hell, even in sports mode, at least for my taste, nothing to do with the Mini. The mini does offer a harsher ride but it could be due to the run flats.
That's all I have for now, not meant for discussion or criticizing the other rides, this is my subjective take on the matter of these rides.
Adding pics, to make it fun.
Mr. Peppy
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