F55/F56 MINI/BMW/Shared technology
MINI/BMW/Shared technology
I have been doing some research and reading on the new 2014+ MINI and the shared technology with other BMW cars. Is there a comprehensive list of what components are direct BMW parts to the MINI?
I had heard talk the the MIN is a re-skinned Series 1 BMW, others say it has more in common with a Series 2. Other claim the 2.0 motor (MCS) is a complete BMW motor identical to one's found in some BMW automobiles. Have also heard that the 2014+ MINI chassis is the same as ones used in some BMW cars.
One can certainly see the BMW heritage in the 2014 and later MINI's but was curious if anyone has a link to an article that discusses the shared components or if anyone have insight into this that they would be willing to share?
Just curious and thought it would be fun to find out how much German is in essentially an English car.
I had heard talk the the MIN is a re-skinned Series 1 BMW, others say it has more in common with a Series 2. Other claim the 2.0 motor (MCS) is a complete BMW motor identical to one's found in some BMW automobiles. Have also heard that the 2014+ MINI chassis is the same as ones used in some BMW cars.
One can certainly see the BMW heritage in the 2014 and later MINI's but was curious if anyone has a link to an article that discusses the shared components or if anyone have insight into this that they would be willing to share?
Just curious and thought it would be fun to find out how much German is in essentially an English car.
Forget the notion of this being a "British Car."
It's as British as Honda is American, i.e. that just happens to be where the assembly plant is, but not even exclusively.
Here's what's shared, to my knowledge:
Chasis: underpins 2-series Active Tourer and 2016 X1 (more to follow)
Engine: used in i8, 2-series, 3-series (both 3- and 4- cylinder engines!)
Wiring/Electricals: shared completely
Software Coding: identical
Parts/Components: many are shared
Equipment Packaging: identical
Others can chime-in.
In summary, yes, the F55/56 is essentially a BMW now.
It's as British as Honda is American, i.e. that just happens to be where the assembly plant is, but not even exclusively.
Here's what's shared, to my knowledge:
Chasis: underpins 2-series Active Tourer and 2016 X1 (more to follow)
Engine: used in i8, 2-series, 3-series (both 3- and 4- cylinder engines!)
Wiring/Electricals: shared completely
Software Coding: identical
Parts/Components: many are shared
Equipment Packaging: identical
Others can chime-in.
In summary, yes, the F55/56 is essentially a BMW now.
USA-RET: Getting an actual list of BMW intellectual property will likely not happen. The best you can realistically hope for is to carefully comb through each target vehicle part numbers and hard point dimensions. The fact that most [all?] current BMW's along with the F55/56 MINI's use ESYS as a BCM/ECU comm interface should tell you quite a bit right there; they share software teams and likely the same MCU's in both the BCM and ECU, if not exact circuit boards, at least "blocks" of circuits relevant for each model.
The term "platform" is misleading for many people. It doesn't mean they have identical components per se, but certain design elements are shared and used as a foundation for quicker diversification. e.g. the quote in Wikipedia for the VW group MQB is quite articulate:
Until someone sits down and sifts through the part numbers of the 2-er Active Tourer and an F56 MINI, or physically measures and compares them side-by-side, it's important to think of the term "platform" as a concept and not something strictly literal like badge engineering from back in the days.
Regarding your engine comment, it's possibly valid circa this week, though the press releases about the F30 330i having the B48 appear limited to assumptions or possibly leaked info, but nothing official just yet. Prior to the 3-er LCI release, the 320i and 328i still use the N20/N26.
The transverse engine 2-er [F45] uses the B48, however the longitudinal 2-er [F22] uses the N20/N26 for now.
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
While a model may be said to use an MQB platform, it is not so much a platform per se, but rather a system for introducing rationality across disparate platforms that share engine orientation — regardless of model, vehicle size or brand. Thus MQB uses a core "matrix" of components across a wide variety of platforms
Regarding your engine comment, it's possibly valid circa this week, though the press releases about the F30 330i having the B48 appear limited to assumptions or possibly leaked info, but nothing official just yet. Prior to the 3-er LCI release, the 320i and 328i still use the N20/N26.
The transverse engine 2-er [F45] uses the B48, however the longitudinal 2-er [F22] uses the N20/N26 for now.
Last edited by Ryephile; May 13, 2015 at 01:17 PM.
I was talking to a German neighbor this afternoon (Berliner) and was told that BMW and MINI's are sold in the same dealerships in Europe.
While not a pure correlation between the two, one could extrapolate that they probably share enough in common to allow BMW service departments to maintain and service both types of autos without having to change hats.
While not a pure correlation between the two, one could extrapolate that they probably share enough in common to allow BMW service departments to maintain and service both types of autos without having to change hats.
I was talking to a German neighbor this afternoon (Berliner) and was told that BMW and MINI's are sold in the same dealerships in Europe.
While not a pure correlation between the two, one could extrapolate that they probably share enough in common to allow BMW service departments to maintain and service both types of autos without having to change hats.
While not a pure correlation between the two, one could extrapolate that they probably share enough in common to allow BMW service departments to maintain and service both types of autos without having to change hats.
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Furthermore, the 320i has the same 11.0:1 compression ratio as the B48 in the Cooper S, albeit with slightly different peak power and torque [likely just a minor difference in tune]. The 3-cylinder Cooper appears to match the engine specs word for word to the 318i, same power and torque too, so that's likely the B38 engine.
Funny how none of that info was in the USA press release.
Yup, my 1st new MINI [in 2003] was delivered at a BMW dealer's used-car lot. BMW's service bays have been able to service MINI's from the beginning, assuming the techs had the model-specific training and the smattering of special tools.
Last edited by Ryephile; May 14, 2015 at 07:12 AM.
At my dealership they didn't ever bother with an alternative name. I asked to see what they could do for pricing on a prepaid lease and my salesrep replied, 'Let's see what BMW leasing is offering today...'
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