While they have owned it since new, it is still a used vehicle at that point.

Dealers write down service loaners each month on their books as an expense to the service department, the amount that they "own it" for on their books at the 8500 mile mark is well under what the invoice was on the car. Service loaners are usually GREAT deals...

 

I wish I got free window tint. Dang!

 

Yeah, they're reimbursed by Mini everytime the car goes out as a loaner, so they have room under the $25k at this point as a used vehicle because they've still 'made money' off the vehicle.

But still the impression i get is that they owned it for $25k when new when msrp was $31xxx. My point was if they bought it new for $25k and ask $31k they have significantly more room than the $2k max discount a lot of commenters are swearing is the largest discount possible - whether you can get that much off or not is another story.

 

I've never heard of window security etching before. What is this crap? Why have I never heard of it?

 

Just saw a twitter feed from my county police. They are etching windows for free. And yes, I have no idea how this is supposed to prevent vehicle theft. I think its THE MAN trying to track me! LOL - j/k :D

 

Besides the window etching, you are getting an insurance policy that pays you some amount if the car is stolen within so many years and not recovered. Or some amount if recovered and damaged. The etching helps id the parts. Really this is almost pure profit for the dealer. I talked one down one time from $300 to $150. Another time I told them there was no way I was paying for it.

 

Definitely check with your local police before paying for VIN etching. Many local police do it for free, they do here in Austin.

The local dealer does add a paint protection thing they say which I'd like to avoid but like "documentation fees " they seek pure profit where they can. You've already ordered, you want the car, reordering from another dealer will take weeks, you likely didn't order something the can't sell off the lot, so they know you're in a vulnerable position.

 

"Our Freight and PDI charge is at $2295 because we include rubberized all weather mats, extra oil and an oil pan heater for the mini."

$440 more than Toronto.

Extra Oil?

 

Also, it's pointless. (a) Window glass is easy to replace, (b) much of a stolen car is going to be parted out via a chop shop anyway.

If you feel the need, buy a $12 kit on Amazon, eBay, or your FLAPS and do it yourself.

Well… they want you to feel vulnerable and obligated to take whatever they do to you. In practice, it's your money. You don't own them a thing.

If they deliver a car and try to add on things that you didn't agree to, you can say no. And if they want to claim your deposit (assuming you made one), you can get that back to — they violated contract, not you, by adding on things you did not ask for.

Seriously. If you are the buyer, you have all the power, and only you can give it up to the dealer.

That said… dealers have a lot of practice at manipulating buyers; the finance guys do it dozens of times a week. They're good at their jobs (or they don't keep their jobs). Most buyers don't get much practice; maybe twice a decade for most of us.

I don't mind giving dealers profit, they need it to survive. But there's only so much I want to give, and I require value to be delivered in exchange for that profit. A $2200 quart of oil, for example, is not my idea of a fair value exchange.

 

You can always cancel, you should think about checking out Sewell in Dallas, they are not short sided with the abusive over MSRP adds. Once you have purchased or serviced a MINI at Sewell you will never go back to the "Scam You If They Can Dealers".