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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt
And you can't just stick a tablet in the dash because laws prohibit watching movies and stuff in the front seats while driving.
Laws that prevent drivers from watching movies and stuff while driving is obviously a good thing but I don't think there is anything against mounting tablets. I have been eyeing this iPad mini car mount for a few weeks in hopes of setting up a cool obd display and to use Waze. I see phones and tablets suctioned to windshields all of the time for GPS reasons.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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I say we ditch the cars and go back to horse and buggy! Who's with me?
40 miles a day on beans and hay.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:48 AM
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I worry intensely about people becoming over confident and dependent upon safety features to the point of abdicating their responsibility for attentive driving until one of those features fails and leads them to their or someone else's death. If something like that happens, where will the ambulance chasers point their greedy fingers? Nanny is rapidly over-reaching. Seatbelts and airbags are life savers to be sure but if I don't have to watch traffic because my car will stop for me until a fuse blows, well then...
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"You can try to idiot-proof the car but you never idiot-proof the idiot!"
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chrunck
I say we ditch the cars and go back to horse and buggy! Who's with me?
Originally Posted by bratling
I'm in!



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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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I think our versions may be more like this:

 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadenza
An automotive engineer once told me...

"You can try to idiot-proof the car but you never idiot-proof the idiot!"
"I'm not a complete idiot - some parts are missing."
A Nonny Mouse
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chrunck
I say we ditch the cars and go back to horse and buggy! Who's with me?
LOL. I don't suggest we go back that far. However, it wouldn't be too difficult for todays manufacturers to build in a feature or two that would prevent the idiots driving on our roads from causing accidents while driving and playing with their electronic toys. Perhaps the car has to be in park or the emergency brake has to be set before someone can play with many electronic features that aren't pertinent to driving the car. That would be easy to do and I can guarantee would save some lives.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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The problem with that is the car doesn't know if the driver or passenger is playing with the nav, connected, etc. Maybe disable some things while driving if no passenger is detected by the weight sensor in the seat?

I know some of the tach settings are disabled while driving, like looking at maintenance info and changing door lock options, blinker options, etc. In that case they know that the driver is going to be making those changes so it's disabled while in motion. You can still change the auto wiper sensitivity though.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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It is interesting to me reading this discussion. How far Mini has moved from it's original form. The Mini I learned to drive was not available in an automatic and there was no synchromesh on 1st gear which meant you had to "double d clutch" to change from 2nd to 1st. Now the Mini parks itself!
Then again in that small car it really felt like you had the engine right there...because it was! The engine was so simple you could work on it yourself - although you were probably unknowingly dying of lead poisoning. Now days these cars are so complicated that the best we can do is buy bolt-on parts for them to satisfy our desire to be mechanic of our own vehicle.
It really feels to me that we are in the last few years of even being able to buy cars like we dream these are. Soon it will be electric or compressed air with some sort of governor that only allows travelling at the speed limit.
My children think that a engine is some peripheral that attached to the onboard computer they really have no interest in getting their hands dirty. I think Signcaver is right. Electronics is what will sell cars in the future...in fact that is what will be driving them (not us)!
It won't be log before you won't be able to buy a standard transmission....enjoy this experience while you can.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Ha Ha very true.. cars in general are changing fast with more electronics.. Lets just hope that MINI has done a better job with the quality of the electronics. IMO there electronics have been very poor at best. They have cool electrical gadgets but they don't last at all..lol
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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F56 will sell because of... electronics

Many of you probably saw the thread title and dismissed the idea, but look at this:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...nc-system.html

In-vehicle technology is the top selling point for 39 percent of auto buyers, more than twice the 14 percent who say their first consideration is traditional performance measures such as power and speed, according to a study by the consulting firm Accenture released in December.
 
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