People have posted pics of the cutoff....it's far from "decent"

But yah...you can "get away with it" if you're okay with the dimmer lights.

 

I've never had H.I.D. bulbs in my car, but my cutoff from my 04 halogens is probably about as good as it gets for halogens, it just doesn't have the ultra sharp cutoff.

 

yah....i guess you were the one that posted a pic of your cutoff in that thread. The pic of the HID's in halogen housings had an awful cutoff and bad glare compared to your pics.

 

I know what this sounds like.. a bunch of snooty lighting geeks who think that everyone should do what they did. Well, your half right

Its just about not getting blinded. Have you ever driven behind someone with a kit? I do all the time, because we have some civic car clubs in my town.

Most of my friends who have done the drop in kits end up taking them out because they have to be aimed so low, all they do in light up the foreground 10' in front of your car.

Some cars work really well with drop in kits, and most dont. Coopers really dont do that well. I have pics to show if you'd like. In the end its up to you, but if I was getting ready to drop $150 on something that was going to yield bad results, I would appreciate some help. Besides, for only $30 more, you can get some projectors and have great results.

Seems like a no brainer.... but, to each his own

 

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This happens to me daily. If it isn't some granny driving head-on with her brights on, it's some kid in a civic rocking some glare-tastic HIDs.

It's inconsiderate and dangerous to ride around blinding other drivers. Plus it looks silly unless you do it the right way.

 

I'd love to have your halogens, because mine are terrible. They have pretty much no cutoff,just blobs of light.

Anyways... it doesn't make sense that xenons would be any more decent in a halogen housing, than a hlogen bulb would be, other than the brightness of the light being emitted. The xenon isn't going to focus the same, because a halogen housing is designed with a halogen bulb in mind, and that the focal point of the bulb is in a particular spot, not to mention a halogen bulb's filament is on a completely different axis.

 

If you're cutoff isn't clean, you may wanna try adjusting the aim on your headlights....they might be a bit off. My cutoff is generally pretty crisp

The bulb is a completely different length and shape.....so the light is hitting the reflector in a completely different way than the halogen bulb. This disturbs HOW the light is being emitted.....

Read here if you wanna understand why HID's work completely differently than halogens in halogen housings:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

a little snip of the article:

 

That's pretty much what I meant. I've read daniel stern before, how do you think I know that xenons wouldn't work?

 

I was waiting for the Stern link to pop up, these threads are never complete without it.

And Aeromax, I never said anything about my lights having a sharper cutoff if I put HID bulbs in.

 

I had the OEM xenons which were in reflector housings, and they were still pretty bad. I not a huge fan of any HIDs in reflector housings, OEM or not...

 

Yah....it only makes sense to post the results of scientific tests to prove your point. The funny thing is that the other side of the discussion relies on the argument "nuh uh, my HID's are fine with the halogen reflector housing"

 

If you ask the same question time after time, it only makes sense that you get the same answer...

I agree that these threads all end up the same... The answer is going to be the same the first time it was asked, as well as the 35th

 

But they are Junk

pair of MDX projectors
modified to take D2S w/ bulbholders, these are well worn, the only thing that is in good condition are the lenses, they are from a RX330 non AFS. As for the rest of the projector the chrome inside has dulled, there is a tab cracked on one of the bowls, a few of the legs of the lens holders have broken and been rebuilt using JB weld, and the shields have been bent and modded more than a few times. As you can read from this description these are NOT in mint condition.

 

Yeah, they are junk... But for this guy, whos clearly on a budget.. Like I said, even the worst projectors are better than a dropin kit any day.

If it were me, I would spend a few more bucks and get a set that wasn't so molested. I was just trying to prove a point that they could be cheap.

 

I was gonna say.....dropin kits in halogen housings are more JUNK than non-mint condition projectors

 

Crappy $30 Abused HID projectors

HID Drop In Kit in Cooper halogen housing


hhmmmm ... Which one?

 

That's odd... if I park my car that close to a wall and turn my lights on (i have halogens, 02-04 reflector housings of course) my lights show up as two round blobs, not as a rectangular cutoff like that... i wonder if something is wrong with my lights.

 

It sounds like your headlights are improperly aimed.....you should check this out: http://www.coolbulbs.com/HID-VISUAL-...-PROCEDURE.pdf

Stock halogen headlights with halogen bulbs have a pretty good cutoff. I have an 02 with halogens and my cutoff is pretty nice. It's obviously not as crisp as a projector....but that's the nature of reflectors. Fixing your headlights should really help you see better during the night

 

I get two round blobs when my DLRs are on... sure thats not it?

 

No DLR's on the halogens.

 

My halogen cutoff...

 

Are yours 02-04 or 05+ hals?

 

he said he's got 02-04 halogens....which is also what i have. No blobs here

 

I figured it out- I changed my bulbs way back in maybe December of 2006. I just inspected them, and it turns out that my bulbs were seated wrong! Took them out, rotated them to their proper position, and voila- I have cutoff now! Amazing!

This just goes to show that if the filament isn't in exactly the right place in the reflector, then you will have really crappy light. No wonder I thought my headlights were so bad!

 

Hahahah well there ya go....glad you got that figured out