Hot or Not (Fuses)
JBE Fuse List
- Fuse - Fuse Size - Supply Circuit (see next post) - Connector - Connector Pin - Wire Size (mm) - Wire Color - Usage F1 Not Used F2 20A 30G_F X11003 5 2.5 RT/BL Trailer Socket F3 30A 30 X11001 10 2.5 GN/GE Headlight Washer Pump F4 30A 30 X11003 10 2.5 RT/WS Trailer Module F5 30A 30 X11007 5 2.5 RT/BL Footwell Module F6 20A 30G X11007 6 2.5 RT/GR Amplifier F7 30A 30G X11003 4 2.5 RT/GR Sunroof F8 30A 30 X11007 10 2.5 RT/VI Footwell Module F9 15A 30 Central Locking F10 10A 30G X11003 8 0.75 SW/GN Telephone (may be 0.35 WS x 2) F11 10A 30G X11003 7 0.75 RT/BL Satellite Radio Tuner and Digital Radio Tuner F12 10A 30G X11006 3 0.75 RT/GE CD Changer F13 15A 30G X11003 9 1.5 RT Transmission Control F14 10A 30G X11007 8 0.75 VI/GR Make-up mirror lights, roof operating unit, luggage compartment light F15 10A 30G X11009 3 0.5 RT/GE Steering column switch cluster F16 5A 30G X11008 10 0.75 OR Dynaimc Stablility Control (DSC) F17 5A 30G X11008 18 0.5 RT/VI Rain/headlight sensor X11008 9 0.5 SW/RT Transmisson control, Tire pressure control (RDC) F18 10A 30G X11009 7 0.75 RT/GE Heaing/air conditioning system X11006 13 0.5 RT/BL Glove compartment light F19 10A 30G_F X11001 8 0.75 RT/GE Comfort access control module F20 7A 30G_F X11008 13 0.75 RT/GE Outside mirror fold-in F21 10A 30G X11003 6 0.75 RT/GE MINI Joystick X11009 9 0.75 RT/GN Radio X11009 9 0.75 GE Central information display F22 15A 30 X11010 10 1.5 RT/GN Rear wiper drive F23 10A 30 X11007 9 0.75 WS Compressor clutch F24 15A 30 Windshield washer pump F25 5A 30 X11008 1 0.5 RT/GN Electrochromatic interior rear view mirror F26 7A 30 X11008 12 0.5 SW/BL Siren with tilt alarm sensor F27 5A 30 X11006 11 0.5 RT/BL/GE OBDII socket F28 15A 30 X11001 3 1.5 RT/GN Relay 2 for rear window wiper F29 5A 15 X11001 7 0.5 SW/GR/GE Telephone F30 5A 15 X11001 6 0.5 GN/WS Park distance control (PDC) F31 5A 15 X11008 11 0.5 GN/RT AUC sensor X11008 2 0.5 GN/GE DC/DC converter F32 7A 15 X11008 5 0.75 RT/BL Mirror adjustment switch X11008 14 0.5 GN Seat heating module F33 5A 15 X11008 15 0.5 SW/RT/WS DSC Sensor F34 5A 30 X11006 10 0.5 RT/BL Car access system F35 Not used F36 Not used F37 5A 30G_F X11006 9 0.5 RT/GE Additional steering column instruments F38 30A 30 X11007 1 2.5 SW Rear window defroster F39 30A 30 X11001 1 2.5 GE/RT Passenger's seat heating module F40 30A 30 X11001 5 2.5 GN/RT Driver's seat heating module F41 20A 30 X11001 9 1.5 RT/VI Trailer module F42 20A 15 X11007 2 1.5 RT/SW/GE Cigar ligher, rear charging socket F43 20A 30 X11010 9 1.5 WS/BL Fuel pump F44 20A 30 X11010 12 1.5 RT/BL Horns F45 30A 30G_F X11009 10 2.5 RT/GN CCC/M-ASK F46 30A 30 X11009 5 4.0 RT/BL Blower motor F47 40A 30 X11005 2 4.0 RT/VI Footwell module F48 40A 30 X11005 1 4.0 RT/GE Footwell module F49 40A 30 X11006 1 2.5 RT Car access system X11006 2 2.5 RT Car access system Main Fuse Block F60 125A X18090 1 16.0 RT JBE F67 150A X13020 1 25.0 RT Front power distribution box F68 40A X6401 1 6.0 RT Fuel injectors/valvetronic F69 100A X14273 1 10.0 RT Electic heater Fuse and connector locations Formatted text |
Terminal 30: Continuous +
Various consumer unit are still directly connected to terminal 30. Terminal R The CAS switches terminal R. Terminal 15 The CAS switches terminal 15. Terminal 30g: Switched continuous + The relay terminal 30g is always present. The relay terminal 30g is activated by the Car Access System (CAS). Time-dependent cutoff: The relay terminal 30g switches the connected consumer units off approx. 30 minutes after terminal R Off. If a telephone is fitted in the vehicle, the after-run time is extended to 60 minutes. Terminal 30g_f: The relay terminal 30g-f is only fitted with High equipment, e.g. if the Car Communication Computer (CCC) was ordered. In the event of faults, the relay terminal 30g-f switches the connected consumer units off. The relay terminal 30g-f is controlled by the junction box electronics. Relay terminal 30g-f is a bi-stable relay. Each switch mode is retained even without current. Under normal conditions, the relay is always switched on. In the event of a fault, the relay switches the connected consumer units off. The following switch-off and switch-on conditions apply to the relay terminal 30g-f: Cutout conditions:
When the relay terminal 30g-f is switched off, it can only by switched on again with defined conditions required for switch-on. Conditions required for switch-on for relay terminal 30g-f:
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Thanks , oPossum for that very valuable information, Im sure that a lot of us folks in NAM can use this info in the future for their mods/ troubleshooting. I think this should be made a STICKY.
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Thanks very much for this info. Very useful.
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Which build is this for?
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
(Post 1714831)
Which build is this for?
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Tanks!
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What a great help this will be -Thanks for all the info , will really help a lot.
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Sweet, I was just looking for this... as I was about to do some custom wiring, saved me!
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Can anyone interpret the cut-out conditions for 30g_f fuses for me? Will it basically stay on overnight after I leave and lock the doors as long as the battery power is adequate? What is the "signal off" message?
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2008 Mini Cooper S Fuse Boxes
Below are two pictures of the "Under Hood Fuse Box"
First is the Cover: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...Hood-Fuses.jpg Below are the fuses https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...Fuses08MCS.jpg Now for the inside guide: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...de_MCS2008.jpg Last, Inside Fuses: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...es_MCS2008.jpg Hope this helps!:nod: |
It amazes me all the fuses in the new minis. My old 63 mini only had 2 fuses:lol:
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Fuse for rear license plate lights?
Managed I think to short the rear lights for the license plate. Now dead! Any idea if this is fused??
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Originally Posted by Brent@minidomore.com
(Post 2538322)
Managed I think to short the rear lights for the license plate. Now dead! Any idea if this is fused??
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Originally Posted by lacning74
(Post 2538709)
did you remove the boot handle? does the hatch release button work? i busted my boot handle's wiring harness plug during a prior install after too aggressive dremeling. i ended up buying a new boot handle.
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I have a question...
I notice that the rear cigar socket is on a 20amp fuse, but uses a 1.5mm wire. From the research I have gathered, a 1.5mm wire is equal to a 16awg wire. The highest rated fuse for a 16awg wire is only 7.5 amps. Why would there be a 20 amp fuse on this circuit???:confused:
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Originally Posted by Xray'dit_Mini
(Post 2670476)
I notice that the rear cigar socket is on a 20amp fuse, but uses a 1.5mm wire. From the research I have gathered, a 1.5mm wire is equal to a 16awg wire. The highest rated fuse for a 16awg wire is only 7.5 amps. Why would there be a 20 amp fuse on this circuit???:confused:
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Originally Posted by rkw
(Post 2670508)
Interesting question. According to charts (such as this), 1.5 mm diameter is between 14awg and 15awg, and that corresponds to approximately 10 amp maximum recommended fuse size. The front and rear cigarette sockets are in parallel on the same fuse so I guess they chose 20A fuse to handle two sockets each running 10A. However a 20A fuse really wouldn't be safe because you can draw 20A from one socket without blowing the fuse and possibly overheat the wire.
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I was wondering about the color codes of the wires and went looking the following is from a web site for BMW and it works for the Mini and I was able to use the line coming out for the alarm system to provide power for the garage door opener now off my visor and inside the the dash with a switch right behind the cigarette lighter.
BMW WIRING COLOR CODES Code German English BL blau blue BR braun brown GE gelb yellow GR grau gray GN grun green RT rot red SW schwartz black WS weiss white VI violett violet |
Originally Posted by Juiceman
(Post 2458681)
It amazes me all the fuses in the new minis. My old 63 mini only had 2 fuses:lol:
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Originally Posted by fishbert
(Post 2739194)
And it only caught fire twice! :razz:
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The fuse info is nice, but it is interesting that none is marked 'headlights' or 'parking lights' I need to tie me gauge lights into a switched wire that is not dimmed, as they are LED's. Can anyone help?
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Originally Posted by windfall
(Post 2818570)
The fuse info is nice, but it is interesting that none is marked 'headlights' or 'parking lights' I need to tie me gauge lights into a switched wire that is not dimmed, as they are LED's. Can anyone help?
thanks F10 is a good switched hit, as odds are no phone... at least I didn't have one. if you need a delayed off... F2 works well. see this: Terminal 30g: Switched continuous + The relay terminal 30g is always present. The relay terminal 30g is activated by the Car Access System (CAS). Time-dependent cutoff: The relay terminal 30g switches the connected consumer units off approx. 30 minutes after terminal R Off. If a telephone is fitted in the vehicle, the after-run time is extended to 60 minutes. Terminal 30g_f:The relay terminal 30g-f is only fitted with High equipment, e.g. if the Car Communication Computer (CCC) was ordered. In the event of faults, the relay terminal 30g-f switches the connected consumer units off. The relay terminal 30g-f is controlled by the junction box electronics. Relay terminal 30g-f is a bi-stable relay. Each switch mode is retained even without current. Under normal conditions, the relay is always switched on. In the event of a fault, the relay switches the connected consumer units off. The following switch-off and switch-on conditions apply to the relay terminal 30g-f:Cutout conditions:
When the relay terminal 30g-f is switched off, it can only by switched on again with defined conditions required for switch-on. Conditions required for switch-on for relay terminal 30g-f:
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Well, you are right, I have no phone, but I have trouble reading the list you put in your message. Are those terminals in the fuse box? I looked for a terminal in the fuse box that was switched by the headlight switch, but did not have much luck. Could I find one if the engine was running? My experience is with older wiring systems that are not so tied to the engine. This is the first car I have ever owned that required the engine to be running for the cigarette lighter to work.
I have looked at the wiring harness coming out of the h/l switch, but I do not want to just start poking a probe into all the wired and hoping. Thanks |
F10 is in the passenger side, from the left looking at the fuse box, second column, first fuse, 10 amp. I used a fuse tap, amazon, or auto zone:
http://www.amazon.com/Bussmann-BP-HH...gy_auto_text_b |
Originally Posted by windfall
(Post 2818570)
I need to tie me gauge lights into a switched wire that is not dimmed, as they are LED's
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I would tap the DSC line as this is the inst. light line also F2 should be switched by the ignition.
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OK. Marshall told me you couldn't put the lights on the dimmer, but I admit that I did not try it. I just believed them. I will try it. Thanks.
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What gauge(s) did you get and you can go direct to the fuse block and put a fuse tap in or tap into the wire on top use the color guide to find the wire. I used the alarm power as I wanted to have constant power for my garage door opener that I placed in my car so I know that many of the lines are switched and the color coded does work. I would recommend that you look at what you don't have installed in your car then go after that signal going into your fuse block and then tap the wire of that color.
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As I said somewhere above, Marshall gauges. Their silver rim looks a lot like the standard rim in the series 2.
After the post above, I decided to try the gray/red wire that goes to the DSC switch, which is what Alta suggests. The lights in the new gauges may be a little weaker than the stock instrument lights. It is hard to tell until night. In any case, they are close, and if they are a little weaker, I can live with that. They all dim and brighten together, so its going to be ok. It runs a fairly high water temp, just under 220, if the gauge is accurate. I saw somewhere else that that is about right. Hope so. |
Originally Posted by windfall
(Post 2819246)
As I said somewhere above, Marshall gauges. Their silver rim looks a lot like the standard rim in the series 2.
After the post above, I decided to try the gray/red wire that goes to the DSC switch, which is what Alta suggests. The lights in the new gauges may be a little weaker than the stock instrument lights. It is hard to tell until night. In any case, they are close, and if they are a little weaker, I can live with that. They all dim and brighten together, so its going to be ok. It runs a fairly high water temp, just under 220, if the gauge is accurate. I saw somewhere else that that is about right. Hope so. |
The plan is for pictures later today. You know how plans are.:lol:
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Originally Posted by windfall
(Post 2819539)
The plan is for pictures later today. You know how plans are.:lol:
Yes they are something to deviate from :grin: |
OK, I took the pictures. See the link below. Week 19 is my build period, so we worried together. They are water temp and oil pressure guages. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...9-post882.html
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Are any of these fuses associated with the second-to-open barn door, on a Clubman? I installed MiniDoMore's electric package for my tow bar (also from them) and now my left barn door won't open. [ Note, I've seen a service bulletin mentioning the left barn door separately, so maybe it isn't something that I caused. ] The tow pkg wiring gets power from the rear area cig lighter. I should perhaps also note that I didn't unplug the battery first, cause it is so hard to reach in the Clubman. Any suggestion of what fuse I might have tripped, in attaching that wiring?
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Originally Posted by godskid
(Post 2843640)
Are any of these fuses associated with the second-to-open barn door, on a Clubman? I installed MiniDoMore's electric package for my tow bar (also from them) and now my left barn door won't open. [ Note, I've seen a service bulletin mentioning the left barn door separately, so maybe it isn't something that I caused. ] The tow pkg wiring gets power from the rear area cig lighter. I should perhaps also note that I didn't unplug the battery first, cause it is so hard to reach in the Clubman. Any suggestion of what fuse I might have tripped, in attaching that wiring?
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both door light(the ones under the door) and the trunk light are off, which fuse would that be??? i checked F13/14/18
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I noticed I'm missing fuse 28 (rear wiper relay) in my 2007 MC. Don't even see tabs inside for the a fuse. I removed my rear wiper a while ago but don't remember messing with the fuse. Maybe I pulled it out, and the tabs also came unsoldered?
Can anyone check and see if they have one or not in their MC? |
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